Canon’s next RF mount camera is in the field

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It really does seem like canon is transitioning the M line to RF Mount.

A vlogger style camera makes a lot sense considering Sony and Nikon are selling quite a few.

I am really interested in how the new flip screen will work. Flipping it out to the side is kind of nice, but for me (just for me) I’d wish they’d release a camera where the screen just flips out underneath. That way the screen and lens would in one straight line. It would especially be helpful for wildlife (flying birds or such) when using live view etc or when the camera is pointing towards the sky.
And hit the tripod or the gimbal? That's a non starter for many
 
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Michael Clark

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The safest thing to say right now is, if the m system ticks your boxes, there's no reason not to buy in. If you really need a more advanced autofocus system, or want to adapt eos R full frame lenses, then wait for that eos R camera. As for native lenses, crop sensor R is still in infancy.

There's no more need to "adapt" full frame EOS RF lenses to an APS-C EOS R camera than there is to "adapt" EF lenses to an APS-C EF-S body. You just mount the full frame RF lens on the APS-C EOS R body.
 
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Michael Clark

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I see Canon learned nothing from the failures of the EOS-M line. We’re going to have 3 APS-C camera bodies and only 2 RF-S lenses that cover the same focal lengths. Give us an 11-22, 22mm and 32mm as soon as possible. Port over the same designs again because the EF-M lenses were excellent. Then get us a 56mm and a 15-45 f/4 or f/2.8. PLEASE start weather sealing these things like Fuji does with all its lenses.

The other camera manufacturers would love to have a "failure" like the EOS M system, which is the highest selling MILC system in history.
 
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There's no more need to "adapt" full frame EOS RF lenses to an APS-C EOS R camera than there is to "adapt" EF lenses to an APS-C EF-S body. You just mount the full frame RF lens on the APS-C EOS R body.
True there's no need to adapt. But I didn't see anything in what you quoted to indicate he thought he needed an adapter.

He might want an RF-S version of a lens that already exists in RF, simply because it would likely be smaller/more compact, and cheaper.
 
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True there's no need to adapt. But I didn't see anything in what you quoted to indicate he thought he needed an adapter.

He might want an RF-S version of a lens that already exists in RF, simply because it would likely be smaller/more compact, and cheaper.

"If you really need a more advanced autofocus system, or want to adapt eos R full frame lenses, then wait for that eos R camera. As for native lenses, crop sensor R is still in infancy."
 
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"If you really need a more advanced autofocus system, or want to adapt eos R full frame lenses, then wait for that eos R camera. As for native lenses, crop sensor R is still in infancy."
Context is always important, and you’ve missed it here. The text you are quoting was in reference to a question on whether or not to buy into the M system. The sentence you left off that preceded what you quoted above was, “The safest thing to say right now is, if the m system ticks your boxes, there's no reason not to buy in.”

The reply you’re quoting is based on the fact that it’s not possible to adapt RF lenses to M bodies, and is suggesting that if the person who asked about buying an M6II wanted to adapt FF R lenses that person should instead wait for that R camera [the one that is the subject of this rumor topic]. The implication you missed is that no (practically impossible) adapter would be required in that case.

In other words, the entire digression on this topic of an adapter was based on your misunderstanding of the context, combined with your insatiable appetite for pedantry.
 
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Michael Clark

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Context is always important, and you’ve missed it here. The text you are quoting was in reference to a question on whether or not to buy into the M system. The sentence you left off that preceded what you quoted above was, “The safest thing to say right now is, if the m system ticks your boxes, there's no reason not to buy in.”

The reply you’re quoting is based on the fact that it’s not possible to adapt RF lenses to M bodies, and is suggesting that if the person who asked about buying an M6II wanted to adapt FF R lenses that person should instead wait for that R camera [the one that is the subject of this rumor topic]. The implication you missed is that no (practically impossible) adapter would be required in that case.

In other words, the entire digression on this topic of an adapter was based on your misunderstanding of the context, combined with your insatiable appetite for pedantry.

Perhaps, but if the second sentence of that comment is made in the context of the impossibility of adapting EOS R lenses to EOS-M cameras, doesn't it seem rather odd that a distinction would be made between full frame RF lenses and possible future RF-S lenses? At that point they seem to think that more RF-S lenses will solve the potential buyer's quandary.
 
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Perhaps, but if the second sentence of that comment is made in the context of the impossibility of adapting EOS R lenses to EOS-M cameras, doesn't it seem rather odd that a distinction would be made between full frame RF lenses and possible future RF-S lenses? At that point they seem to think that more RF-S lenses will solve the potential buyer's quandary.
Nothing odd. I suspect the point was that the only two available RF-S lenses are either inferior to or optically identical to (18-45mm and 18-150mm, respectively) current EF-M lenses, so there’s no incentive to consider adapting current RF-S lenses to an M body. Thus the qualifier about adapting full frame RF lenses.
 
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