Don't worry about it. Just fold up a plastic bin liner and keep it your back pocket, and it will always be there, ready, if you get caught out in an unexpected shower, or if you need to protect the camera from dust or splashes.
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Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System
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No disagreement here. I also prefer to travel light and bring only what I need. I’m just saying if they made the R8 a little heavier to accommodate a bigger battery, I’d be happy with that tradeoff. Still, I don’t think carrying the extra batteries is that bothersome. I’ll still consider this camera.For traveling I always want to have a smallest gear as I can. A bigger grip make it a slightly heavier. Seems like not much of a deal, but you should count a bigger lenses you're hinting on. With bigger body and a lens you also needs to have a bigger tripod, bigger ballhead. I used to have another ballhead on my bike as well. Bike needs to accommodate a different stand so it wouldn't play on a wind. A handle for table stand needs to be bigger, and heavier. Handle in the office too. I forgot to mention all the big, thick and firm straps you would need to use so your expensive camera wouldn't sleep out off the shoulder. But ff you're staying in 500 - 800g you can avoid all of that, travel light and enjoy the ride.
You see its a snowball that rolling from the top of the hill to the bottom. And it all starts from a pinky and additional 160 grams. All I want to say is, not everyone needs a better grip.
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Regardless of your opinion of any current camera model from the major manufacturers, the technological progress made in the past five years within the realm of photography and videography is nothing short of amazing. We're quite fortunate to have the option to complain about a camera which shoots 40 FPS, records over-sampled 4K 60, and has AI subject detection. I'm grateful to Sony for giving the entire industry a mirrorless wake-up call.
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Wow, RF-S has existed for less than a year. A bit impatient are we?
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Actually, the EF-M 11-22 is very good and from what I have seen so far with the 10-22, the M lens is sharper in the corners, but the 10-22 is very well built and that is good, particularly for the current used prices.
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But the M is small, and paired with an M6/M6II makes a very portable combo with great IQ. I hope we get R equivalents to match.
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I think there are 3 groups of people who chose the RP or are interested in the R8.
The biggest group with the least crossover to posters here are the first time FF or camera in general buyers who won’t have much of a baseline to care about battery life.
I belong in the second group and bought it specifically for its size and, with the RP, sacrificed IQ with that canon’s sensor choice for the size, not to save money. I could have bought a R, R6 or R5 at any point but I have specifically been holding for this camera. There are still a few compromises that have nothing to do with size/weight reduction that I would change, but the battery size is not one of them.
The third group would rather have a R6 or R5 but they are not in their price range. Totally understandable as cameras are expensive and, for many of us, not necessities. If it makes someone feel better about the camera they really want being out of their price range to complain about the battery in a camera that was never meant to fill their need, so be it. With as stacked as canon’s FF lineup is, I have a hard time imagining someone with an unlimited budget not being able to find a camera that checks all their boxes.
For anyone wondering why the size is preferred, I take mostly landscape photographs so want my primary kit to be as portable/packable as possible. I also always have a L-bracket (Sunwayfoto for those looking for the RP/R8) on at almost all times which made my 5d iii even more of a tank that it already was. The RP with the L-bracket feels like a 5D/6D in the hand and I still have the option to go small without the L-bracket with one of the small prime lenses.
The biggest group with the least crossover to posters here are the first time FF or camera in general buyers who won’t have much of a baseline to care about battery life.
I belong in the second group and bought it specifically for its size and, with the RP, sacrificed IQ with that canon’s sensor choice for the size, not to save money. I could have bought a R, R6 or R5 at any point but I have specifically been holding for this camera. There are still a few compromises that have nothing to do with size/weight reduction that I would change, but the battery size is not one of them.
The third group would rather have a R6 or R5 but they are not in their price range. Totally understandable as cameras are expensive and, for many of us, not necessities. If it makes someone feel better about the camera they really want being out of their price range to complain about the battery in a camera that was never meant to fill their need, so be it. With as stacked as canon’s FF lineup is, I have a hard time imagining someone with an unlimited budget not being able to find a camera that checks all their boxes.
For anyone wondering why the size is preferred, I take mostly landscape photographs so want my primary kit to be as portable/packable as possible. I also always have a L-bracket (Sunwayfoto for those looking for the RP/R8) on at almost all times which made my 5d iii even more of a tank that it already was. The RP with the L-bracket feels like a 5D/6D in the hand and I still have the option to go small without the L-bracket with one of the small prime lenses.
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Agreeed. That is why I am keeping my M6 II with all the M lenses. Given the size of the R8 and R50, I think it is a safe bet that we will see most of the M lenses ported or something redisigned that is similar. The 55-210 is at least a slight redesign and that makes sense as the M 55-200 was one of the least impressive M lenses. OTOH, the Rs 18-150 looks like a direct port from M, and that also makes sense. The R 16mm is a FF lens, but very useful on a crop body. I suspect we will see the 11-22 come across, but it could be expanded to a 9 or 10-22. Only time will tell. The 32 is golden and I can see no reason that it will not be ported. The 22 could turn into a pancake FF, but to early to tell. I doubt there will be any rush on the 28 as that is a pretty niche lens anyway, and with the mainstream FF lenses all coming in as 50% macros, it is not very compelling albeit a decent lens in M form. It would be nice to see a redesign of the EF-s 15-85 as that 24-135 range is really nice, but I am keeping my 15-85 and not holding my breath
. Meanwhile, the 24-240 on the R5 is a stunningly good lens for the money, so a shrink of that to APS-c would be very viable alternative. Unfortunately, 15-150 is too close to 18-150 for that to be likely.
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Of course. I was just noting my personal preference was aligned with that of the original poster. Not bashing Canon's choice by any means as it will probably work for most people. I may very well buy this camera regardless since I'm not too bothered by no IBIS or 1 card slot. That said, while R8 is very small for a full frame camera, it's not exactly small enough to slide into your pocket either.
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Honestly, for me the 11-22 + 18-150 meet >95% of my APS-C shooting needs. The other EF-M lenses are generally good (and relatively cheap, so for me the bar to purchase them just for fun is quite low), but for macro, portraits, etc., I typically use FF. As I've said, my M use is mainly travel with family. Generally, in those photos I want to show the context, so portraits use a narrower aperture and I don't shoot much macro. I recall that on a trip to China many years ago, I did take some closeups of silk and silkworms in Nanjing – I had brought my 70-200/2.8 II and a 500D closeup lens I'd borrowed from a friend. For that use today, the R3 (or the R8 if I keep my preorder) plus the RF 100-400 with its ~0.4x magnification would meet the need.Agreeed. That is why I am keeping my M6 II with all the M lenses. Given the size of the R8 and R50, I think it is a safe bet that we will see most of the M lenses ported or something redisigned that is similar. The 55-210 is at least a slight redesign and that makes sense as the M 55-200 was one of the least impressive M lenses. OTOH, the Rs 18-150 looks like a direct port from M, and that also makes sense. The R 16mm is a FF lens, but very useful on a crop body. I suspect we will see the 11-22 come across, but it could be expanded to a 9 or 10-22. Only time will tell. The 32 is golden and I can see no reason that it will not be ported. The 22 could turn into a pancake FF, but to early to tell. I doubt there will be any rush on the 28 as that is a pretty niche lens anyway, and with the mainstream FF lenses all coming in as 50% macros, it is not very compelling albeit a decent lens in M form. It would be nice to see a redesign of the EF-s 15-85 as that 24-135 range is really nice, but I am keeping my 15-85 and not holding my breath
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FWIW, I've been caught in the rain a couple of times with the RP. Turned it off, tucked it under my shirt, and wiped it dry as soon as I got to safety. Haven't had any problems materialize. I definitely wouldn't try to test the limits though.
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The rumor a few months ago was that an RF-S version of the 22mm was in development and would be released along with the R50. Obviously that didn't happen. I wonder if they're making an RF version instead.
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Not really. Your can use RF-S and EF/EF-S/RF Canon lenses and 3rd party EF but Canon doesn't address the UWA focal range needed by R mount crop sensors.
For R7, the general high end use is "reach" / working distance etc but what do they use if they want UWA? With my 7D+24-105/4L my second lens was EF-S10-22mm which was perfect.
This is now the 3rd RF-S body but still no UWA lens.
I would have expected kit lenses (tick) and UWA as the other focal ranges are covered.
Repackaging the EF-M 11-22mm or the EF-S10-22mm would seem to be simple solutions to me.
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Since the R8 body seems very close (or identical) to the RP, I would suggest checking out reviews etc on the RP's weather protection. I suspect you'll find it is pretty basic, but normal for a camera in the price range.
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Well, to me, that seems like big money for the non-L 24-50. Then again, it might be something special .
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