Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]

Maybe Canon will simplify its naming convention Ive never fully understood why use Rebel in the USA / Canada and not elsewhere in the world. Everything abouve the EOS 70D is the same globally so it cannot be a gray import issue.

Mars unified its brand names globally, so did unilever & many others.

As to the sensor being 24.2MP that really seems odd given the 7DMKII is 20.2MP and why use 19 cross type AF points when they crippled the 6D to one? If that is the case then the MKII version of the 6D better be quick and the 7DMKII will become old before its time!
 
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kphoto99 said:
The big differentiator between 7DII and this new camera will be (beside the AF) the FPS and the size of the buffer. The current Rebel's buffer is speced at 3 raw frames, the reality it is just 2 raw frames. The 7DII buffer is 31 raw. A big difference.

Just wait for all the complaints if the new camera gets the better Sony sensor. The 7Dii sensor would then already be out of date with no replacement in sight for 4 years.
 
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The Rebel line is really great. I use my t4i (650D) for all sorts of things including onsite prevideo or pre actual shoot spec/setup work. It's small enough to be convenient and light and it takes great pictures especially after I installed the Technicolor CP. I expect to use this t4i for many years.

It would be great if the new Rebel had clean HDMI out, could provide for external recording, and could support ML at the current 5DIII level. The higher ISO is great, but we will have to see what amount of noise we actually get. I don't use my current t4i very often above 800 given that I am outside so much. It has significant noise at higher ISOs in its current range.
 
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Luds34 said:
Keep in mind, it's still a rebel with rebel size and ergonomics. To me, a lot of the reasons to shoot with a pro camera or even a prosumer is just the better feel in the hand, buttons, controls... aka ergonomics. Things that you can't list on a spec sheet. Mounting any real glass on a rebel feels incredibly unbalanced to the system as a whole.

Total shot in the dark here, but could the different between the two be a traditional DSLR and a mirrorless? One of them removes the mirror and adds an EVF? With how conservative Canon is, this could be their way of hedging a bit and seeing how the market responds. Give the consumer the choice in basically identical bodies and see which one is popular? A little experiment, test the waters, and let it help drive their future market decisions.

I think its certainly possible to have a camera of a similar kind of size to the current standard rebels and also offer improved handling and build though, maybe not to quite the degree of the 70D but still an improvement.

When it comes to mirrorless I think its notable that recently we've actually seen bodies starting to grow in size(T-X1, E-M1, GH3/4, NX1). With those cameras your really no longer talking about something significantly smaller/lighter than a rebel, what your talking about is a camera with superior handling/build, that's a market that an upgraded Rebel sized body could also aimed for.
 
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hoodlum said:
kphoto99 said:
The big differentiator between 7DII and this new camera will be (beside the AF) the FPS and the size of the buffer. The current Rebel's buffer is speced at 3 raw frames, the reality it is just 2 raw frames. The 7DII buffer is 31 raw. A big difference.

Just wait for all the complaints if the new camera gets the better Sony sensor. The 7Dii sensor would then already be out of date with no replacement in sight for 4 years.

I know I would be really unhappy if I just purchased a 7DII and this happened. The 7DII is $1800 and I would expect the new Rebel to be around $800-$900.
 
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crazyklaus said:
Splitting the Rebel line would be strange, then Canon would have six APS-C DSLRs for sale: the 1200D, 100D, 750D, 760D, 70D and 7DII. Rather a lot, I think.
Especially when the only difference between the 750D and 760D seems to be the rear dial (and creative modes that are not useful). That'd be mighty odd to open up a new camera line just to add a rear dial...I presume with the intention of making users love it and want a 70D/7D? Wouldnt they just buy a 70D since they'll be the same price (actually, 70D will be cheaper) upon release?
 
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moreorless said:
Luds34 said:
Keep in mind, it's still a rebel with rebel size and ergonomics. To me, a lot of the reasons to shoot with a pro camera or even a prosumer is just the better feel in the hand, buttons, controls... aka ergonomics. Things that you can't list on a spec sheet. Mounting any real glass on a rebel feels incredibly unbalanced to the system as a whole.

Total shot in the dark here, but could the different between the two be a traditional DSLR and a mirrorless? One of them removes the mirror and adds an EVF? With how conservative Canon is, this could be their way of hedging a bit and seeing how the market responds. Give the consumer the choice in basically identical bodies and see which one is popular? A little experiment, test the waters, and let it help drive their future market decisions.

I think its certainly possible to have a camera of a similar kind of size to the current standard rebels and also offer improved handling and build though, maybe not to quite the degree of the 70D but still an improvement.

When it comes to mirrorless I think its notable that recently we've actually seen bodies starting to grow in size(T-X1, E-M1, GH3/4, NX1). With those cameras your really no longer talking about something significantly smaller/lighter than a rebel, what your talking about is a camera with superior handling/build, that's a market that an upgraded Rebel sized body could also aimed for.

I agree with you. The rebel (almost) has intentionally crippled buttons/controls and those could be easily improved. And small size/package is great. For me it depends what I'm shooting. For casual stuff I enjoy tossing the M + 22mm in my jacket/coat pocket. I still use a rebel with the new 24mm pancake as a "carry everywhere" camera. However, for real shooting, I just personally feel the larger cameras feel/work better in my hands. As they say, YMMV as I have rather large hands.

Valid points on the mirrorless as well. My buddy likes to remind me occasionally that his X-T1 is really no smaller then a rebel. I don't have the specs in front of me, but with so much metal construction I think it's even heavier (or it just feels that way to me). A relatively small advantage many mirrorless cameras have though, even if they are a similar size overall body, the lens mount area of the camera can be much thinner, therefore a lens won't stick out quite as far. Which if you stick to small primes, becomes a nice advantage. But I think most people agree, once you start to mount any size lens to most cameras, the camera size just becomes a smaller factor. The X-T1 with the standard kit lens is really not any more inconspicuous then a DSLR with standard zoom. However I will concede something like the X100S(T) with that nice 35mm equiv integrated pancake lens is much more stealthy.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
The target user of Rebel cameras would love Dual Pixel AF. I do not see why create a new APS-C sensor without Dual Pixel AF.

I would have preferred a Rebel with the same sensor of 70D.

+1

Rebel consumers are often the ones, "Why can't this fancy camera autofocus video?"
 
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I find it highly unlikely that the sensor will out-spec the 70D and 7DMkII as Canon is typically (and understandably) protective of higher end models. If you start to cut into higher models there is a ripple affect across the line up. Canon is way to conservative for that. The new Rebel will have a 20.2MP sensor.
 
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Actually, the Rebel line already has more cross-type AF points than the 6D, so I guess it's expected to have more already. 19 on the Rebel vs 1 on the 6D is pretty silly though. This makes the 6D even more obviously targeted to landscape and still subjects vs action at all.

Anyway, I agree that mirrorless cameras are getting larger. It's probably due to the fact that small cameras are just not ergonomic at all. In a funny way, the same thing is happening to smart phones. They became small and then just keep on getting bigger because people want more and more. Eventually, there'll be a medium where the size of a camera (and smartphone) will become the "best-selling" size.

Going back to the Rebel, I think it will have Dual Pixel AF. I agree that there's no reason for it to not have it as it should become the standard for Canon's APS-C. To distinguish itself to the 70D, I think it will still be smaller even w/ the rear dial. Consumers will have to decide which size/ergonomics/build-quality/performance they prefer, but IQ will essentially be the same. This is the same recipe they used for the 60D and Rebel line.
 
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I´ve seen some very contradicting responses.
One guy says that current 7D II sensor is okay for the purpose. It is not low ISO low noise resolution hunting sensor. It is "the action one" with good output at high ISO speeds, with fast FPS and great focusing and stuff.
And I believe it is true. There actually CAN be better sensor in terms of different aspects of performance in lower class, and so it will leapfrog the 7D II sensor in some aspects. Why not? It´s perfectly possible, and of course it is my guess and wish... :-)
And while Canon really uses old stuff in their cameras, they (desperately?) need to do that. Especially when they stay with poor FPS and other poor stuff. See competition! It won´t hold forever for Canon with these old sensors. I won´t buy ANY Canon cam until they put something better in it. As a Canon shooter. That´s something, and I believe I´m not alone.
If they use new sensors with ADC on chip, it will lighten some workload for processor, so it will be able to do things better and faster. I believe in this move.

But as others wrote, Canon is about conservative, and is able to kill it with the same sensor. It woul be very bad to do that.
 
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dilbert said:
But I don't get why there would be a 750/760. That smells bad.

I'm not sure it smells bad, but I don't get why they would turn out two levels of rebel cameras. I would think that would muddy the decision tree even more. Perhaps they are producing the next 60D type of camera.
 
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wockawocka said:
24mp sounds very Sony like.

TBH I'd happily have Sony sensors in my Canons. They've finally sussed the skin tones.

I agree with you that 24 megapixel reminds my a lot of Sony Sensors like Nikon uses a lot, but i don't know if Canon would give their own sensor brand for a new rebel for another brand.

One thing is certain i think the old 18 MP sensor must go.
 
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hoodlum said:
kphoto99 said:
The big differentiator between 7DII and this new camera will be (beside the AF) the FPS and the size of the buffer. The current Rebel's buffer is speced at 3 raw frames, the reality it is just 2 raw frames. The 7DII buffer is 31 raw. A big difference.

Just wait for all the complaints if the new camera gets the better Sony sensor. The 7Dii sensor would then already be out of date with no replacement in sight for 4 years.

If a happy 7Dii owner becomes unhappy because a new camera comes out with a handful of better specifications on a datasheet somewhere, he's a fool.

If he was unhappy with his 7Dii to begin with, he's a fool for not having returned it.

If he is wise, he'll continue shooting the 7Dii to grab a higher percentage of hard-to-achieve images than the new camera even with its extra shadow detail, and continue using it in environments where the new camera would have to be left indoors.
 
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