Canon patents a built-in tilting viewfinder

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Here is an interesting patent from Canon, an EOS R series body with a built-in tilting viewfinder. This would definitely be a feature a lot of people would enjoy using on a camera like the Canon EOS R5 Mark II. I have used such a viewfinder with the Leica M11 and I love it. It

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[Del Paso]

Please Canon, make it real. On the R5 II ? (Yes, I know I'm only dreaming).
Since I hate using the LCD for macros in sunshine, this would be perfect for me!
I also use such a tilting viewfinder on my Leica M and I love it too !

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Please Canon, make it real.
Since I hate using the LCD for macros in sunshine, this would be perfect for me!
I also use such a tilting viewfinder on my Leica M and I love it !

I didn't know I wanted it until I bought the EVF for the M11 to get the lower minimum focus distance on certain lenses, as well as it being easier to focus with my aging eyes. The tilt has been a joy to use and I find I use it more tilted up just because of my height and getting lower/eye-level with subjects.

 

[koenkooi]

WIth the EVF being on-axis, this makes it a lot easier to use than the tilty-flippy screen on the back!

 

[Steve Balcombe]

A basic tilting electronic viewfinder couldn't be patented, it's been done so many times before. There must be something in the implementation which is deemed worthy of a patent.

I agree it would be a great feature - the sort of thing which might tip the balance in favour of updating an otherwise perfectly good camera (such as the R5).

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

A basic tilting electronic viewfinder couldn't be patented, it's been done so many times before. There must be something in the implementation which is deemed worthy of a patent.

I agree it would be a great feature - the sort of thing which might tip the balance in favour of updating an otherwise perfectly good camera (such as the R5).

It looks like it pulls out then flips up. Likely to keep the EVF as flush as possible to the body when it's in the "normal" position.

 

[Swurre]

This would be very interesting

 

[Del Paso]

I didn't know I wanted it until I bought the EVF for the M11 to get the lower minimum focus distance on certain lenses, as well as it being easier to focus with my aging eyes. The tilt has been a joy to use and I find I use it more tilted up just because of my height and getting lower/eye-level with subjects.

Same her, apart from my modest height...
An expensive Leica option, but absolutely worth it!

 

[EOS 4 Life]

WIth the EVF being on-axis, this makes it a lot easier to use than the tilty-flippy screen on the back!

Yes, I would much rather this that a tilting screen.
Keep the side flipping screen and have the EVF tilt.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Yes, I would much rather this that a tilting screen.
Keep the side flipping screen and have the EVF tilt.

It seems a bit overkill to have both the screen and the EVF tilting. As a photographer, I would far prefer a tilting EVF than a tilting LCD screen.
However, i'm sure the Video centric guys will have a different opinion.

 

[bbasiaga]

Definitely would be handy!

 

[neuroanatomist]

It looks like it pulls out then flips up. Likely to keep the EVF as flush as possible to the body when it's in the "normal" position.

Sounds like how the EVF on my Canon HF G60 camcorder behaves.

 

[Maximilian]

It looks like it pulls out then flips up. Likely to keep the EVF as flush as possible to the body when it's in the "normal" position.

The body in the drawing looks like an R6/R6m2. Maybe it was already implemented in one of those prototypes for testing.
I think the mechanism would be quite complex and therefore expensive. So if I am right with both, they skipped it for the R6m2.
For all hoping for it, I'll keep my fingers crossed that it'll come with the R5m2.
Personally, I am not so sure about the durability of the mechanics here. But I was so with the screen, too. And that works well.

 

[Maximilian]

Sounds like how the EVF on my Canon HF G60 camcorder behaves.

Maybe two Canon departments, that don't know from each other?
Wouldn't be the first time with bigger companies...

 

[AJ]

I have used such a viewfinder with the Leica M11 and I love it. It

Funny that something that's already out there can be patented again. I guess the devil is in the details.

 

[BlackNDBlue]

Here is an interesting patent from Canon, an EOS R series body with a built-in tilting viewfinder. This would definitely be a feature a lot of people would enjoy using on a camera like the Canon EOS R5 Mark II. I have used such a viewfinder with the Leica M11 and I love it. It

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Ummm... Just so you know, Samsung had that very feature on their short lived NX-30 Camera introduced in 2014... Appears Canon is 9 years late.

 

[BlackNDBlue]

Funny that something that's already out there can be patented again. I guess the devil is in the details.

Yes, and Samsung had it on the NX-30 introduced in 2014 and one does wonder how you "Patent" something that already existed.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Yes, and Samsung had it on the NX-30 introduced in 2014 and one does wonder how you "Patent" something that already existed.

Two points there. One, the new patent must have sufficient differences to have novelty compared to prior art. The devil is in the details, so even something that looks similar can easily be different enough. Two, when CRguy and others report these news items as 'Canon patents' it generally means the patent has published, which happens a fixed 18 months from the date of application filing. It doesn't mean the patent was granted in the form it was published, so if upon review the examiner determines some of the claims are not novel, they will be rejected.

 

[rbr]

I would love this feature in any future camera I buy. I regularly used the Canon angle finder C with my slr's going back to film days. I really miss not being able to use it with my R5. I don't like using the flip screen on the back since I need to use it with reading glasses to see it, and it is not on the same line of focus that the lens its pointing. It also reflects the sunlight (or clouds) making it hard to see at all. This feature, or at least offering an accessory angle finder would be very welcomed by me.

How about adding some well made extension tubes to the R system while you're at it. The R system is still lacking some very basic things that I have always taken for granted and have been available to most camera systems since I began my photography over 40 yerars ago.

 

[neuroanatomist]

How about adding some well made extension tubes to the R system while you're at it. The R system is still lacking some very basic things that I have always taken for granted and have been available to most camera systems since I began my photography over 40 yerars ago.

I suspect that extension tubes were never very popular, and they're likely pretty far down on Canon's priority list for the RF mount. I think they're of even less importance considering that Canon is adding semi-macro capability to many lenses that would have formerly have been used with tubes, e.g the RF 24/1.8, 35/1.8 and 85/2 all go to 0.5x native magnification.

I do have the EF versions of the 12 and 25mm tubes, which I use mainly for closer focus with the 600/4 II. Although I was not inclined to trust a 3rd party tube as the bridge between a $13K lens and a $6-7K body, for what is probably a more typical extension tube use case (increased magnification for standard lenses) a 3rd party option would be fine. There are already several of those for the RF mount, e.g. Vello (12 + 20 set), Kenko (10 + 16 set), Meike (13 + 18 set) and Fotodiox (15 and 35, separate).