Canon W-E1 Camera Compatibility & Specifications

Fatalv said:
Act444 said:
What? No 5D3 compatibility?? :o I hope this is an incomplete listing.

It remains a good camera without Wifi, but still...

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I would be interested if the price is right and works in the 5DMK3.
+2, it will be quite dissapointed if this device is not compatible with the 5D3, while options in the market are limited and most useless. Hope they will come up with a firmware update for the 5D3
 
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Fatalv said:
Act444 said:
What? No 5D3 compatibility?? :o I hope this is an incomplete listing.

It remains a good camera without Wifi, but still...

+1

I would be interested if the price is right and works in the 5DMK3.

I think you're dreaming. Why add a key feature upgrade to a rig that is about to be effectively obsoleted by a newer model in the same brand name segment? Canon wants to sell new $3k+ 5D4 cameras, not sell a boatload of $40 SD adaptors to 5D3 owners who sit out this camera upgrade cycle.

I'm not surprised at all with the 5D3 being left out.

And for those who didn't see the other story, this is basically a $40 item that marries up with a firmware upgrade. Throw out any 'price is right' logic -- Canon is practically giving it away to extend the life of the 7D2 (destined for another 5 year life cycle?). I'm little surprised the 5DS got it, as WiFi could be the tipping point on future 5DS2 upgraders someday.

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Talley said:
With the 5D3 5D4 now having WIFI built in and the 80D line and the Rebel line all having wifi... there will never be another canon camera without it. GOOD!

Corrected that for ya. 5D3 people remain SOL and must use EyeFi or bolt-on external hardware.

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SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users. A small gesture of goodwill goes a long way....or not.

that's how Canon works, yes. Goodwill towards existing customers is definitely not in their "strategy". They want us to buy a whole new camera at $ 3500 every time we want some small improvement, that should have been included 2 generations ago already. Pretty clever business model. Except it dos not work well in the long run. Not with me. Not with others.
 
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I'm reading a lot of hate for the Eye-fi, and while I know it's not perfect, what are your main complaints? I typically use it to allow for posting during events, to show images while teaching, and to show clients during location shoots where I can't physically tether to my laptop. I don't bother with RAW trasnfer (too slow).

What don't you like? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm actually curious...
 
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dennirussel said:
I'm reading a lot of hate for the Eye-fi, and while I know it's not perfect, what are your main complaints? I typically use it to allow for posting during events, to show images while teaching, and to show clients during location shoots where I can't physically tether to my laptop. I don't bother with RAW trasnfer (too slow).

What don't you like? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm actually curious...

I had 2 cards, first one worked ok but broke in half whilst removing from the camera, the replacement never worked at all in several cameras and network with no response from customer service
 
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AvTvM said:
SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users. A small gesture of goodwill goes a long way....or not.

that's how Canon works, yes. Goodwill towards existing customers is definitely not in their "strategy". They want us to buy a whole new camera at $ 3500 every time we want some small improvement, that should have been included 2 generations ago already. Pretty clever business model. Except it dos not work well in the long run. Not with me. Not with others.

It's more likely to be technical reason it won't work in older cameras
 
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Meatcurry said:
It's more likely to be technical reason it won't work in older cameras

LOL! ;D

Absolutely no technical reason, why it should not work in any camera in which an EyeFi card or similar also works. It is nothing but Canon's GREED, GREED, shortsighted GREED. ::)

btw: "older cameras" ... give me a break. 5D3 is still current. and mine is only 1 year young! :)
 
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Meatcurry said:
AvTvM said:
SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users. A small gesture of goodwill goes a long way....or not.

that's how Canon works, yes. Goodwill towards existing customers is definitely not in their "strategy". They want us to buy a whole new camera at $ 3500 every time we want some small improvement, that should have been included 2 generations ago already. Pretty clever business model. Except it dos not work well in the long run. Not with me. Not with others.

It's more likely to be technical reason it won't work in older cameras

no, it's just that they can't be bothered to do so.

adding firmware is relatively costly once units are in production.
 
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AvTvM said:
Meatcurry said:
It's more likely to be technical reason it won't work in older cameras

LOL! ;D

Absolutely no technical reason, why it should not work in any camera in which an EyeFi card or similar also works. It is nothing but Canon's GREED, GREED, shortsighted GREED. ::)

btw: "older cameras" ... give me a break. 5D3 is still current. and mine is only 1 year young! :)

You're joking right? The Canon card can CONTROL the camera via the remote device and app, something the EyeFi card CANNOT do. I'm guessing that the Canon card and/or compatible cameras have uniquely configured contacts/hardware to allow this functionality to work. Therefore the designers of the 5D3 would have had to have had foreknowledge of the W-E1 design/specification in 2011/12!
 
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rrcphoto said:
Meatcurry said:
AvTvM said:
SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users. A small gesture of goodwill goes a long way....or not.

that's how Canon works, yes. Goodwill towards existing customers is definitely not in their "strategy". They want us to buy a whole new camera at $ 3500 every time we want some small improvement, that should have been included 2 generations ago already. Pretty clever business model. Except it dos not work well in the long run. Not with me. Not with others.

It's more likely to be technical reason it won't work in older cameras

no, it's just that they can't be bothered to do so.

adding firmware is relatively costly once units are in production.

You're convinced its just a firmware issue and no hardware mods are required to make this work?
 
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Meatcurry said:
Therefore the designers of the 5D3 would have had to have had foreknowledge of the W-E1 design/specification in 2011/12!

and the 5DS / 5DSR designers did hav that foresight, right?

It is just a few lines of firmware code, nothing else. ML can do it. Canon should be able to do it. They just do not WANT to. Because of GREED, GREED, GREED.
 
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AvTvM said:
Meatcurry said:
Therefore the designers of the 5D3 would have had to have had foreknowledge of the W-E1 design/specification in 2011/12!

and the 5DS / 5DSR designers did hav that foresight, right?

It is just a few lines of firmware code, nothing else. ML can do it. Canon should be able to do it. They just do not WANT to. Because of GREED, GREED, GREED.

Errrr yeah, I guess as the 5DS/R was launched in 2015, and despite its apparent similarity to the 5D3 its a brand new design!
 
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Meatcurry said:
AvTvM said:
Meatcurry said:
Therefore the designers of the 5D3 would have had to have had foreknowledge of the W-E1 design/specification in 2011/12!

and the 5DS / 5DSR designers did hav that foresight, right?

It is just a few lines of firmware code, nothing else. ML can do it. Canon should be able to do it. They just do not WANT to. Because of GREED, GREED, GREED.

Errrr yeah, I guess as the 5DS/R was launched in 2015, and despite its apparent similarity to the 5D3 its a brand new design!

lol. well, as i wrote earlier, Canon does have a huge proportion of *very gullible* customers. Instead of demanding from their gear supplier the very best, they come up with excuses for that gear suppliers failures. They worry more about Canon's profit margin than about getting more bang for their own buck. Quite astounding! :o :P

Again, we are talking about straighforward WiFi capablities ... and it is late 2016. I am not asking Canon to retrofit my 5D3 with a lightfield imaging system or even lit active AF fields, heaven forbid!
 
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SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users...

Canon is giving away the card to new buyers of the 7DII, so it's eating the cost to those customers. The retail price tag is probably at or below cost for existing owners of the 5D S and the 7D II. With retailer discounts it's unlikely they are making any money on the cards.

So, looking at it another way, they decided to cut their losses by not opening it up to owners of a discontinued model. Petty? Or, maybe just a way to hold down their losses.
 
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unfocused said:
Canon is giving away the card to new buyers of the 7DII, so it's eating the cost to those customers. The retail price tag is probably at or below cost for existing owners of the 5D S and the 7D II. With retailer discounts it's unlikely they are making any money on the cards.

Give me a break. Such a WiFi card probably costs in the area of 50 cent a piece if you buy lots of 10.000.
 
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unfocused said:
SteveM said:
Very petty of Canon not to make this available for 5D Mklll users...

Canon is giving away the card to new buyers of the 7DII, so it's eating the cost to those customers. The retail price tag is probably at or below cost for existing owners of the 5D S and the 7D II. With retailer discounts it's unlikely they are making any money on the cards.

So, looking at it another way, they decided to cut their losses by not opening it up to owners of a discontinued model. Petty? Or, maybe just a way to hold down their losses.

You actually think that at $40 they are selling it bellow cost?

Here is something similar, not by Canon, but a SD WiFi card:
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11444
and the price is $20, explain how the same thing selling at 100% more is being sold bellow cost, or is Canon such a high cost producer?
And don't bother saying the cost of developing firmware is what is driving the cost, everybody has to do firmware.
 
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