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LDS said:
Ohh! Maybe you can use bluetooth headphones with the thing! (Only half joking actually)
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I have been following all the discussion of the M5 just for grins, no real interest. Now I have a slight interest. As we age my wife has more trouble handling the weight of her 40D but the weight of the M5 is nearly 1/2 that of the 40D. Equipped with a EF-M lens this camera should feel really good for her. In that case the lack of 4K video is not a matter of concern since I doubt she has ever shot a minutes video on her phone and I know she hasn't on my 7D or 7DII. I shoot less than 30 minutes a year and then only if I need a video for one of the church ministries I'm involved in.
I now need to quit reading for grins and do some real research.
I now need to quit reading for grins and do some real research.
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It looks like Canon finally stepped up the performance of their mirrorless camera...still needs prime lenses, etc...but that has to be the butt-ugliest camera I have seen in years. It looks like no design went into it at all...just function.
Camera by commitee?
Camera by commitee?
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Really have been anxious to get a mirrorless and canons offerings werent appealing at all.
The sony looked good and the fujis looked real nice - but the thought of getting into a completely new system - well its more stuff to have, more money, etc,etc
This m5 however looks so promising to me - has all the features I need. Hopefully it will come in at a reasonable price point ~ $1000 US
It looks a tad big in the picture, but if it is close to the size and form factor of the m3 then I will be all over this camera.
Looks like Canon has seriously entered into the milc foray now.
The sony looked good and the fujis looked real nice - but the thought of getting into a completely new system - well its more stuff to have, more money, etc,etc
This m5 however looks so promising to me - has all the features I need. Hopefully it will come in at a reasonable price point ~ $1000 US
It looks a tad big in the picture, but if it is close to the size and form factor of the m3 then I will be all over this camera.
Looks like Canon has seriously entered into the milc foray now.
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No, they absolutely do not.lw said:
And speaking personally, I would rather barbeque my own eyeballs while watching boxsets of "Songs of Praise" than watch football, F1 racing, or any other sport on TV, so for people like me, there is little to no 4k content available, unless I shoot it myself!
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Apart from 4K it still does look promising.
If it can do everything a A6300 can do (apart from 4K) it would still potentially be a better match for my EF lenses.
The key thing is have they have eradicated issues when using EF lenses on the M3. Otherwise its a non-starter if the only choice for best AF is native EF-M, or only STM lenses. Key for me will also be my Sigma EF-mount lenses performing flawlessly. (at least I have the USB hub to update their firmware if necessary)
If its an 80D in mirrorless form, and is at least as capable as an 80D, then it might tempt me if for no reason than it gets rid of MAF issues with my Sigma 150-600.
I wonder if the body is going to be chunky enough to use it hand-held with my Sigma 150-600 or Canon 70-200F2.8? No problem with 70/80D bodies - but will this be comfortable enough?
The other issue is will it support wireless flash like Canon DSLR bodies? That would be nice. But that requires going back to EOS software I presume, and I am not sure thats going to be the case.
I really wish it had 4K. But if the performance and price is OK then I might at least replace my 70D body with this.
If it can do everything a A6300 can do (apart from 4K) it would still potentially be a better match for my EF lenses.
The key thing is have they have eradicated issues when using EF lenses on the M3. Otherwise its a non-starter if the only choice for best AF is native EF-M, or only STM lenses. Key for me will also be my Sigma EF-mount lenses performing flawlessly. (at least I have the USB hub to update their firmware if necessary)
If its an 80D in mirrorless form, and is at least as capable as an 80D, then it might tempt me if for no reason than it gets rid of MAF issues with my Sigma 150-600.
I wonder if the body is going to be chunky enough to use it hand-held with my Sigma 150-600 or Canon 70-200F2.8? No problem with 70/80D bodies - but will this be comfortable enough?
The other issue is will it support wireless flash like Canon DSLR bodies? That would be nice. But that requires going back to EOS software I presume, and I am not sure thats going to be the case.
I really wish it had 4K. But if the performance and price is OK then I might at least replace my 70D body with this.
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Zv said:
Trust me, you're not alone!
I shoot a handful of home videos each year. I took it seriously enough that I put together a dedicated setup with a 2nd M (loaded ML), an external mic, the stabilized 18-55 zoom, and a bracket to help hand hold the camera. 1080p is plenty good enough for home videos as one only needs so much detail to capture baby's first steps, first words, etc. I can assure myself that years from now when we sit down and watch these old, very amateurish, home videos that the emotional responses, smiles to our faces will not be diminished because the quality is "only" 1080p.
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VooDooZG said:lw said:
i also have Sigma 150-600C so does your Sigma work ok/like native with 80d in lv or not ? it will be big diffrence if m5 wont work with 3rd party lens like Sigma 150-600, Sigma 105Macro and Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC
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Yes - in LV you don't require MAF. That's a key advantage of MILC AFAIC. But it still needs to be precise and accurate of course.
The problem with the 150-600 is that it offers you 16x maf adjustments. (4x FL each at 4x FD).
That's a right PITA... My 150-600 may not be representative, but it does exhibit a bell curve of MAF adjustments, and different curves at different FL/FD. So you can't have 2 settings as the Canon body allows (wide/tele) . IME, I needed to set all 16 of those points to get accurate focus across the whole range.
I then made the mistake of updating the firmware and deleting all the adjustments which I mislaid my written copy of. So I have to do it all over again.
It annoying to the point I am seriously considering replacing it with a Canon 100-400 II as that seems to be better optimized from the factory.
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VooDooZG said:lw said:
i also have Sigma 150-600C so does your Sigma work ok/like native with 80d in lv or not ? it will be big diffrence if m5 wont work with 3rd party lens like Sigma 150-600, Sigma 105Macro and Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC
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I think you should be fine. When I owned a 70D I believe my Sigma Art performed correctly. The old EX 50mm may not have. For sure a Tamron 17-50 I once had did not make use of the DPAF and fell back to the painfully slow contrast focusing in live view.
Either way, DPAF has been out for a while now so I'm sure Sigma's current fw supports it on all their current lenses.
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For what Canon is doing and how they're #1 in the market, I think they're doing just fine. People are still buying Canon. They aren't Nikon where they kill off their own products by releasing a newer version 6 months later (ala Apple). That is also why Canon gear holds its value longer than Nikon.SBP_photo said:
It's poor business to have one division encroach on another. You're a single company, you don't compete with your own.
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