More Detailed Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II

[Loswr]

yes, you get it! the annoyance of something that is not quite as you would like it to be. I know about compromises in my life full well. Thank you!
but.. for the same "convenience" reason Mr. Neuro owns how many photo bags of various sizes and how many tripods? because we like thing being convenient , sensible, well designed and appropiate for the task.

Sure, but I don't complain when I use them at a height lower than their maximum possible, I just use them at the height that's appropriate to the situation. Kinda like setting 1/160 s instead of 1/180 s.

 

[SecureGSM]

yes, 10 times yes. I am saying: it would be sooooo much better if .... you know the rest.
but then I would not consider purchasing 5D body, would I?

yes, you get it! the annoyance of something that is not quite as you would like it to be. I know about compromises in my life full well. Thank you!
but.. for the same "convenience" reason Mr. Neuro owns how many photo bags of various sizes and how many tripods? because we like thing being convenient , sensible, well designed and appropiate for the task.

Sure, but I don't complain when I use them at a height lower than their maximum possible, I just use them at the height that's appropriate to the situation. Kinda like setting 1/160 s instead of 1/180 s.

 

[amorse]

Any word on weather sealing?

I felt that the original 6D was sufficient for my needs, but I wouldn't want to take a step back. No doubt it won't be on par with the 5D IV, but equivalent to the 6D would be a treat! Hoping that wasn't a casualty of the articulating screen...

That's probably my biggest deciding factor remaining between the 5D IV and 6D II

 

[tr573]

Any word on weather sealing?

I felt that the original 6D was sufficient for my needs, but I wouldn't want to take a step back. No doubt it won't be on par with the 5D IV, but equivalent to the 6D would be a treat! Hoping that wasn't a casualty of the articulating screen...

That's probably my biggest deciding factor remaining between the 5D IV and 6D II

I'm consulting my crystal ball....

There is a 99.999999999% chance that Canon will describe the weather sealing as follows:

"The protection provided by the design and sealing is equivalent to that of the EOS-1N film camera; the weather-sealing standard by which other professional cameras were judged."

 

[amorse]

Any word on weather sealing?

I felt that the original 6D was sufficient for my needs, but I wouldn't want to take a step back. No doubt it won't be on par with the 5D IV, but equivalent to the 6D would be a treat! Hoping that wasn't a casualty of the articulating screen...

That's probably my biggest deciding factor remaining between the 5D IV and 6D II

I'm consulting my crystal ball....

There is a 99.999999999% chance that Canon will describe the weather sealing as follows:

"The protection provided by the design and sealing is equivalent to that of the EOS-1N film camera; the weather-sealing standard by which other professional cameras were judged."

I don't know what I expected. I guess I'll need to wait for a teardown.

 

[tr573]

Any word on weather sealing?

I felt that the original 6D was sufficient for my needs, but I wouldn't want to take a step back. No doubt it won't be on par with the 5D IV, but equivalent to the 6D would be a treat! Hoping that wasn't a casualty of the articulating screen...

That's probably my biggest deciding factor remaining between the 5D IV and 6D II

I'm consulting my crystal ball....

There is a 99.999999999% chance that Canon will describe the weather sealing as follows:

"The protection provided by the design and sealing is equivalent to that of the EOS-1N film camera; the weather-sealing standard by which other professional cameras were judged."

I don't know what I expected. I guess I'll need to wait for a teardown.

That's pretty much it, yeah. Canon describes the weather sealing in every XXD and XD camera with that phrase, so their marketing words are completely meaningless.

 

[Uneternal]

Can't believe they have the nerve, after all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled, to put 1/180 xsync and 1/4000 sync AGAIN while even lowest models got 1/200 xsync.

 

[Loswr]

Can't believe they have the nerve, after all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled, to put 1/180 xsync and 1/4000 sync AGAIN while even lowest models got 1/200 xsync.

Remind me, which 'lowest models' got 1/200 s Xsync? Oh, you mean the ones with smaller APS-C sensors, where the curtains don't need to move as far. Yeah, got it.

While your at it, please describe the effect 'all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled' had on unit sales. LOL. :

 

[ahsanford]

Can't believe they have the nerve, after all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled, to put 1/180 xsync and 1/4000 sync AGAIN while even lowest models got 1/200 xsync.

Remind me, which 'lowest models' got 1/200 s Xsync? Oh, you mean the ones with smaller APS-C sensors, where the curtains don't need to move as far. Yeah, got it.

While your at it, please describe the effect 'all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled' had on unit sales. LOL. :

That's usually true for shutter speed limits in FF cameras at these price points, but:

D610: 1/200 sync
D750: 1/200 sync
A7 II: 1/250 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)
K-1: 1/200 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)

Again, I don't think it's a massive deal -- but the grass is technically 1/6 of a stop greener on the other side for this metric.

- A

 

[Don Haines]

OK, I am going to explain this one more time....

A crop camera has a smaller shutter than a FF shutter. It is half the weight and only has to move 60 percent as far.

A crop camera has a smaller mirror than a FF mirror. It is half the weight and only has to move 60 percent as far.

This means that it takes a much more expensive mirror in a FF camera to get the same performance as in a crop camera... This has absolutely NOTHING to do with crippling, marketing, nerfing, or some insidious plot.... it is PHYSICS!

There is a very good reason why the 6D2 does not have an expensive shutter like the 5D4..... It is a $2000 camera and not a $3500 camera. Yes, Canon could have put a more expensive mirror in the 6D2. They could also have put in dual memory slots. The could have given us better video (4K) and the computing power/architecture to handle it (dual digic)..... They could have even added in some more AF points and improved on the metering..... Oh wait! They did! It's the 5D4!

 

[Loswr]

Can't believe they have the nerve, after all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled, to put 1/180 xsync and 1/4000 sync AGAIN while even lowest models got 1/200 xsync.

Remind me, which 'lowest models' got 1/200 s Xsync? Oh, you mean the ones with smaller APS-C sensors, where the curtains don't need to move as far. Yeah, got it.

While your at it, please describe the effect 'all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled' had on unit sales. LOL. :

That's usually true for shutter speed limits in FF cameras at these price points, but:

D610: 1/200 sync
D750: 1/200 sync
A7 II: 1/250 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)
K-1: 1/200 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)

Again, I don't think it's a massive deal -- but the grass is technically 1/6 of a stop greener on the other side for this metric.

- A

Indeed it is. But that doesn't preclude it being a techincal limitation on Canon's part. Note that the Nikon D610 and D750 have shutters rated for 150,000 cycles, while the 6D has only a 100,000 actuation rating (5DIII/IV are rated for 150K), consistent with my thinking that the 6D has a less robust shutter assembly, which necessates slower-moving curtains and a slower Xsync.

 

[SecureGSM]

with side effect being the much quieter shutter in 6D. Sold!

Indeed it is. But that doesn't preclude it being a techincal limitation on Canon's part. Note that the Nikon D610 and D750 have shutters rated for 150,000 cycles, while the 6D has only a 100,000 actuation rating (5DIII/IV are rated for 150K), consistent with my thinking that the 6D has a less robust shutter assembly, which necessates slower-moving curtains and a slower Xsync.

 

[Sporgon]

Can't believe they have the nerve, after all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled, to put 1/180 xsync and 1/4000 sync AGAIN while even lowest models got 1/200 xsync.

Remind me, which 'lowest models' got 1/200 s Xsync? Oh, you mean the ones with smaller APS-C sensors, where the curtains don't need to move as far. Yeah, got it.

While your at it, please describe the effect 'all the criticism the 6D got for being crippled' had on unit sales. LOL. :

That's usually true for shutter speed limits in FF cameras at these price points, but:

D610: 1/200 sync
D750: 1/200 sync
A7 II: 1/250 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)
K-1: 1/200 sync (also: 1/8000 shutter)

Again, I don't think it's a massive deal -- but the grass is technically 1/6 of a stop greener on the other side for this metric.

- A

The grass may technically be greener by 1/6th of a stop, put in practice it is clearly more like 2 stops !

 

[ShootTheStars12]

I think I am the ideal target for this camera. I started out with an SL1 and learned the ropes of DSLR's with that camera. I now am ready to upgrade to a FF camera. To me, 4K video would've been nice, but I don't really care too much. I care about fantastic pictures, and the 4K timelapse feature sounds like a lot of fun to me!

I was hoping some experts here could help me out deciding between this 6D II and the Pentax K-1. I travel a lot, and love getting great travel shots, and I am dying to do astrophotography. Those are my 2 main uses. What are the opinions here on the pros and cons of these 2 budget-friendly (sorta?) cameras for me?

 

[chrysoberyl]

I think I am the ideal target for this camera. I started out with an SL1 and learned the ropes of DSLR's with that camera. I now am ready to upgrade to a FF camera. To me, 4K video would've been nice, but I don't really care too much. I care about fantastic pictures, and the 4K timelapse feature sounds like a lot of fun to me!

I was hoping some experts here could help me out deciding between this 6D II and the Pentax K-1. I travel a lot, and love getting great travel shots, and I am dying to do astrophotography. Those are my 2 main uses. What are the opinions here on the pros and cons of these 2 budget-friendly (sorta?) cameras for me?

I looked into the K-1 and lost interest because Canon glass apparently cannot be adapted to it. There is quite a selection of third party glass for it, though. I will go with the 6D II, because of my glass selection, and because I rarely have good conditions for astro.

 

[Talys]

OK, I am going to explain this one more time....

A crop camera has a smaller shutter than a FF shutter. It is half the weight and only has to move 60 percent as far.

A crop camera has a smaller mirror than a FF mirror. It is half the weight and only has to move 60 percent as far.

This means that it takes a much more expensive mirror in a FF camera to get the same performance as in a crop camera... This has absolutely NOTHING to do with crippling, marketing, nerfing, or some insidious plot.... it is PHYSICS!

There is a very good reason why the 6D2 does not have an expensive shutter like the 5D4..... It is a $2000 camera and not a $3500 camera. Yes, Canon could have put a more expensive mirror in the 6D2. They could also have put in dual memory slots. The could have given us better video (4K) and the computing power/architecture to handle it (dual digic)..... They could have even added in some more AF points and improved on the metering..... Oh wait! They did! It's the 5D4!

But, but, the 6D2 needs to have everything the 5D4 has, but better, smaller, and lighter. Otherwise, Canon will surely be doomed! Camera bodies and lenses should miniaturize, improve in capabilities, and have prices that hit the floor like be like PCs, tablets and smartphones!

 

[SecureGSM]

Oh, what a drivel... never mind.

Any ideas what the buffer capacity of 6D II will be like? With 6.5 shots per second, would buffer last for 5 seconds at least?

 

[Skywise]

So uh... built in stereo mic?

 

[tron]

Oh, what a drivel... never mind.

Any ideas what the buffer capacity of 6D II will be like? With 6.5 shots per second, would buffer last for 5 seconds at least?

I am not optimistic and card speed will not help much either. But as this camera is more of an entry level type I wouldn't hope much. I believe that the main power of this camera will be its IQ (shadows, high iso, anything) at a price that will possibly get lower and lower during time (judging from 6D).

 

[SecureGSM]

Hi tron,

My 6D buffer lasts for about 5-6 seconds but that's at 4.5 frames per second. 25-27 frames in average. I have to mind as to how fast I am clicking away. i cannot afford any less than that though. I hope Canon was generous enough to include a bit larger buffer in 6D II.

Oh, what a drivel... never mind.

Any ideas what the buffer capacity of 6D II will be like? With 6.5 shots per second, would buffer last for 5 seconds at least?

I am not optimistic and card speed will not help much either. But as this camera is more of an entry level type I wouldn't hope much. I believe that the main power of this camera will be its IQ (shadows, high iso, anywhere) at a price that will possibly get lower and lower during time (judging from 6D).