More Detailed Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II

[tron]

A trick use (also to reduce vibration) is to use silent shooting which lowers the rate significantly. That way I extend the duration of continuous shooting (assuming the lower rate is acceptable of course).

 

[Sharlin]

A trick use (also to reduce vibration) is to use silent shooting which lowers the rate significantly. That way I extend the duration of continuous shooting (assuming the lower rate is acceptable of course).

At 6.5fps the 6D2 will probably also get a slower non-silent burst mode like the 80D and co. Though I guess it's somewhat redundant given the silent continuous mode.

 

[malarcky]

"ML never works on Dual Pixel cameras.
just forget it."
That was a quote by a poster.
I don't know about that.

http://www.cameraegg.org/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-now-cracked-by-magic-lantern/

 

[smithcon]

I don't really do video with my DSLR, so the no 4K is only a minor resale value risk for me. Other than not offering hardware IBIS for stills (and I did not expect that but held out a tiny bit of hope), the 6d Mark II looks like it has everything I was hoping for. The tilty-flippy screen is the most anticipated upgrade for me, especially with DPAF, which looks absolutely amazing for live view focusing. If I stay Canon, I will definitely upgrade from my 6d to the Mark II just for that. I like to do a lot of unconventional viewpoint shooting, and I'm getting a little old to be laying on my stomach or cramming my head into tight corners.

Now that Canon has announced this, my dilemma is whether to sacrifice IBIS and stay with Canon and my EOS EF lens collection, or wait for an IBIS-equipped Sony with a proper tilty-flippy screen (which might never come) and better menu ergonomics and low light focusing (sounds like the flagship A9 made huge progress in low light focusing and better menu ergonomics, etc, so some of that will likely swim downstream). No doubt it would be much less expensive for me to stay Canon because of my lenses, and I really want to do so, but my love for IBIS is deep -- I spent a day with an A7R II and came away in love with IBIS (and also with a love for full tilty-flippy screens over just the tilt screen of the A7R II).

My ideal camera would be a Canon EOS FF DSLR with full IBIS AND a tilty-flippy screen, which does exist from anyone but should be possible to produce. That would be one amazingly flexible creative photography tool, and my lenses would really throw a party.

My lenses will most likely find themselves happily on the end of a 6D Mark II soon; I'll wait to see how it performs in thorough reviews, but I would be surprised if the reviews on still performance and ergonomics weren't very good.

 

[Loswr]

How can the justification be made that the 1/180 flash sync speed is due to the full frame sensor when other manufacturers are at 1/200 and above?

As I stated above, the 6D's shutter is rated for 100,000 actuations, whereas the other 'entry-level' FF dSLRs are rated higher, the Nikon D610 is rated for 150,000 (as is the step-up D750), and the Pentak K-1 is rated for 300,000. That suggests that Canon's shutter mechanism is less robust, and perhaps cannot move the curtains as fast as the Nikon/Pentax dSLRs. If that hypothesis is correct, I'd suggest you head over to the Nikon forums and ask how they can justify the D610 and D750 being limited to 1/4000 s (the Pentax K-1 does 1/8000 s, like the D810/D5).

Also how does that explain the 5D iv going from 1/250 down to 1/200?

Sorry...but what are you talking about? The Xsync for the 5D, 5DII, 5DIII, and 5Ds/R are all 1/200 s. Just like the 5DIV. Among FF cameras, only the 1-series manages an Xsync of 1/250 s. The higher end APS-C cameras (7-series, 80D) also have a 1/250 s Xsync, thanks to the smaller sensor.

 

[Loswr]

So I should be celebrating a less robust shutter mechanism for more money.......got it!

You asked for 'justification', and I provided a plausible technical rationale. If you don't like the 6DII, don't buy it...get it?

 

[Adelino]

When will reviews start coming out?

 

[unfocused]

When will reviews start coming out?

Well...it's got to be released first.

You can expect some "first look" type of reviews almost immediately, but those won't be particularly enlightening.

Moe thorough reviews will take some time.

 

[Uneternal]

How can the justification be made that the 1/180 flash sync speed is due to the full frame sensor when other manufacturers are at 1/200 and above? Also how does that explain the 5D iv going from 1/250 down to 1/200? Look guys, I've been a long time Canon user but you have to admit that Canon seems content with slightly besting their last offering rather than matching or beating competitors features. Throw us a bone and at least remove the low pass filter so at least sharpness is one less thing Nikon and Sony users can throw in our face! Not trolling, but honestly... how many years since the original 6d and the engineers can't make 1/200 sync a possibility. I'm sorry but I have a hard time buying that. I would rather they have added a couple more upgrades to the 6d line and removed all video functionality leaving that as an upgrade feature to the 5D line.
Now some will say video may not be important to me but is to others, true enough, but same can be said about flash sync speed and sharpness. I also don't buy the theory of Canon being afraid to canibalize the 5D sales. Selling too many products is never a bad thing for profits. I'm no mathematician but 2 6d's = $4,000.....1 5D = $3,300. Selling less products than your competition due to less innovation is where you lose. But then again Canon know's that with the substantial investments we made in lenses and accessories, none of us are going anywhere, so why innovate too much too soon. Just frosts my cookies that the yet to be released 6Dii is behind in features of the D750 which is about to be replaced itself! And to charge an extra $200.00 to cancel out the low pass filter and provide the sharpness we should be getting to start with is a crime!
Sorry to rant on, guess I need to get out shooting and relax....lol.

 

[Besisika]

Also how does that explain the 5D iv going from 1/250 down to 1/200?

Sorry...but what are you talking about? The Xsync for the 5D, 5DII, 5DIII, and 5Ds/R are all 1/200 s. Just like the 5DIV. Among FF cameras, only the 1-series manages an Xsync of 1/250 s. The higher end APS-C cameras (7-series, 80D) also have a 1/250 s Xsync, thanks to the smaller sensor.

And to be honest I never felt comfortable shooting at 1/200th sec on my 5D III. I always shoot at 1/160th. I don't even remember why. On the 1D I shoot 1/250th all the time, unless I need more ambient light.

 

[Jopa]

Is there a FF nanoUSM or STM that performs great AF during video?

Try the 24-105 STM IS. It's not terribly bright, but the AF is smooth and quiet, plus IS helps to avoid handheld jittering. There is not much offerings for FF unfortunately...

 

[justawriter]

Yet another camera that doesn't include a microwave oven and a built in unicorn that farts colored candy sprinkles. Obviously Canon cares nothing for the serious camera user. ;D

 

[SecureGSM]

unicorns usualy fart with rainbows. My 12 y.o. knows this for a fact.
I will pass on the microwave but would gladly take AF joystick instead, just for, you know, the quick management of those excellent 45 cross point AF points included. That would get me buy this camera in an instant. actually, two of these, thanks. I realise that it is an unreasonable expectation though as this is a PRO feature and cannot be offered with an Entry Level FF camera. And no, increased cost argument does not hold the water. we are talking few dollars if not cents here.

Yet another camera that doesn't include a microwave oven and a built in unicorn that farts colored candy sprinkles. Obviously Canon cares nothing for the serious camera user. ;D

 

[Luds34]

How can the justification be made that the 1/180 flash sync speed is due to the full frame sensor when other manufacturers are at 1/200 and above?

Sorry to rant on, guess I need to get out shooting and relax....lol.

Just a point of reference, the Fuji X-T10, X-T1, and X-E2 all have a max flash sync speed of 1/180th and they are crop to boot. (I think it has been improved with the X-T2)

Yes, I'd recommend more shooting and relaxing.

 

[hgraf]

And to be honest I never felt comfortable shooting at 1/200th sec on my 5D III. I always shoot at 1/160th. I don't even remember why. On the 1D I shoot 1/250th all the time, unless I need more ambient light.

I'm the same. The reason for me is that depending on what kind of slave flashes you are using they may not react quick enough for 1/200th. Shooting at 1/160th has always resolved that problem for me.

 

[-pekr-]

Also how does that explain the 5D iv going from 1/250 down to 1/200?

Sorry...but what are you talking about? The Xsync for the 5D, 5DII, 5DIII, and 5Ds/R are all 1/200 s. Just like the 5DIV. Among FF cameras, only the 1-series manages an Xsync of 1/250 s. The higher end APS-C cameras (7-series, 80D) also have a 1/250 s Xsync, thanks to the smaller sensor.

And to be honest I never felt comfortable shooting at 1/200th sec on my 5D III. I always shoot at 1/160th. I don't even remember why. On the 1D I shoot 1/250th all the time, unless I need more ambient light.

Well, if the leaked features are as accurate as leaked announcement dates (M20 was supposed to be announced just yesterday), maybe there is some chance, that the x-sync time is going to be 1/200 after all

 

[Jack Douglas]

I have no experience with time lapse so what exactly would be in the menu for this feature; briefly how will it work. I realize that over time periodic shots are taken but would appreciate a little camera specific detail. Would this in any way impact the slow shutter speed capability say for stary sky night shots?

Jack

 

[jim_jim_s]

i am excited for 6d2, but no any news from canon japan website until this moment...

 

[Zv]

unicorns usualy fart with rainbows. My 12 y.o. knows this for a fact.
I will pass on the microwave but would gladly take AF joystick instead, just for, you know, the quick management of those excellent 45 cross point AF points included. That would get me buy this camera in an instant. actually, two of these, thanks. I realise that it is an unreasonable expectation though as this is a PRO feature and cannot be offered with an Entry Level FF camera. And no, increased cost argument does not hold the water. we are talking few dollars if not cents here.

Yet another camera that doesn't include a microwave oven and a built in unicorn that farts colored candy sprinkles. Obviously Canon cares nothing for the serious camera user. ;D

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally. Maybe I'm used to the dial/wheel but I find it faster and less infuriating than the d pad or joystick. I also don't tend to drastically move from one corner point to another in quick succession. That's just my style of shooting though (slow). YMMV

 

[PBguy]

Anyone else think that a Thursday announcement date would be strange especially considering it's right before a huge American holiday weekend? I'm starting to wonder if that rumor was wrong. At least I don't have to wait long to find out.