UPDATED: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

[Famateur]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

huh?

80D - 100% viewfinder
45 point AF all cross type 27 points f/8.
deeper raw buffer
20mp versus 24mp
possibly ADC based sensor.
timelaps / intervalometer
anti-flicker

Ok but most of those things on that list are thing you don't need for stills. Why does he need 45 crosstype AF points and a deep raw buffer for stills? Why does he need anti-flicker for stills?

And the T6S is 24MP just like the 80D, so that's not a good argument either.

The viewfinder is a good argument, so it depends on how he feels about that.


read the post, he shoots stills....he doesn't need off-the-wall AF tracking

I keep re-reading your post , looking for a <sarcasm> tag...

Please tell me you're not serious when you say cross-type AF points, buffer depth and anti-flicker aren't features for stills shooting!

Unless when you say "stills" you mean the subject is still (i.e. "still life", not moving). In case it's a language barrier thing, most people consider "stills" to mean single images captured with each release of the shutter (as opposed to video). Stills in this sense can be images of fast-moving subjects (e.g. flying birds where AF-tracking, FPS and buffer depth are critical) or completely static subjects (e.g. landscape).

Yes, it is my fault, I interpret stills with still pictures, like still life and landscape.

It is literally translated like that here. For example, I did not know that stills could include sports photography. Therefore I had no idea why people kept saying he needed AF tracking, high burst and image flicker compensation for still life.

Apparently stills means "pictures" for most, differentiating it from video.

My bad, I had no idea to be honest.

Also, I just realized why I kept bumping heads with someone on another site, now I want to go back in time and apologize to that person.

Was wondering if something was lost in translation!

Don't worry about it -- slang can be misunderstood easily if English is not your first language. Even then it can be a challenge sometimes (e.g. UK vs. American slang).

Yes, Stills = Pictures for most members of this forum, I believe.

Glad it's all cleared up now!

 

[H. Jones]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Count me in as another 5D III owner who's interested in adding this 80D to my kit.
Will mainly dedicate it to macro work with my MP-E 65 lens.

When I used a 60D a few years back for 1-4x macro(reversing rings/extension tubes) work it was absolutely fantastic using the swivel screen with live view to get a good angle and idea of the exposure/manual focus. Highly recommend the xxD series for that.

 

[Ozarker]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Lame, Canon!
But we can see the bright side.
As the most photographers/videographers migrate to Sony, Panasonic... all used Canon gear will get a lower price. We will see Canon bargains everywere!

Yeah, because most photographers and videographers are migrating to Sony and Panasonic. Sales figures be damned!

 

[Ozarker]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

as so often with Canon: too little, too late. This should have been the 70D or even better, the 60D. Vari-angle touchscreen, decent AF module, WiFi, GPS, NFC built in and hopefully a halfway competitive sensor. Would have competed well against Nikon D7000/1000/7200.

In 2016? Just another boring old mirrorslapper.
And yes, the same specs in an EOS-M4 would be fairly nice.

You are always such a joy to read. Days are so much brighter with your constant disappointment around... Eeyore. :'( If things are so awful in the Canon camp why do you stick around? I hear Sony and Nikon calling your name. Better run along now.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

The main target buyer for the 80D is the same as that for the previous xxD models – xxxD owners looking to upgrade. In case it's escaped your attention, there are more xxxD owners out there than all MILCs combined, so it's a pretty large target demographic. Secondarily, it's targeted to owners of older xxD models 40/50/60D).

I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but times have changed. I don't think there's as many xxxD owners as there use to be, a lot have gone mirrorless or abandoned cameras all together for smart phones.

For example, I saw more people outside Notre-dame in Paris shooting with iPads than I did with Rebels. Go to any tourist photo spot and you'll see way more selfie sticks in use than DSLRs. I was recently up on Victoria Peak above Hong Kong with my 5D3 on a tripod taking long exposures of the cityscape at dusk, and numerous young people asked if they could take a photo of the display on my 5D3 with their phone or tablet. That's photography by the masses today... it's a world where there's little to no interest in products like Rebels or the 80D.

What world are you living in? In this world (the real one, that is) dSLRs still outsell MILCs by 3:1. Sure, the ILC market as a whole is shrinking, smartphone cameras are far more popular and there's some market saturation as product refinements generally slow.

20 years ago, you'd have seen more instamatic cameras than SLRs in the plaza at Notre Dame in Paris. Cheap (relatively) and available will always be more popular.

Fewer customers are buying ILCs, but of those that are, Rebel/xxxD bodies comprise the largest segment (based on published data on dSLR vs ILC shipments, market share data, and a reasonable assumption supported by some limited data that entry-level bodies are the largest dSLR segment by far).

 

[Diltiazem]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications



If you want to know what lost in translation really means try reading the comments here with google translation.

http://digicame-info.com/2016/02/eos-80d-3.html

 

[Ozarker]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market?

target buyer: primarily the fanboys and collectors who buy every new model. It's the usual Canon upgrade with some minor tweaks in features and controls, nothing that could threaten a higher up model and of course you pay through the nose for the small improvements. For those who have the 70D how much reason is there to upgrade? They usually claim the 70D AF and sensor are excellent, no need to make any changes ...

I know this camera has only been leaked and the full press release isn't out, but I have to assume that it's not written anywhere in the press release that Canon is looking for every, or even any 70D owners to upgrade. Your sh***y assumptions, lack of technical expertise and first hand information, as well as your complete lack of market surveys and analysis don't make this camera a dog. It just means you're spouting off about something you know very little (being generous here) about.

BURN! ;D

 

[beforeEos Camaras]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

What's not listed in the specifications (at least) is that the images show at least two new shooting modes - C1 & C2 - on the shooting mode dial. They're not present on the 70D.

the 70Das only 1 custom mode hence just the c not a c1 c2 or even a c3 like the 5dmk3

I will soon have a 5dmk3 in about 2 weeks and my 70d will be my back up camera

 

[AWR]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Would the MILCfanbois please go shoot their (imagenary) MILC cameras, and stay the hell out of this forum.
You are so sorry sad little boys. Envy is such a sad thing.
If everything is great at "MILC" why are you here?
Childish.

 

[slclick]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Ugh, I loathe the contempt for civil dialogue here. Not to mention the poor spelling

This looks like a fine addition to the XXD line. Like ANY camera body, is it for everyone? No. None will ever be.

 

[Refurb7]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market? What are the key competitive differentiators against cameras like the Sony a6300?

I would rather use the 80D than any Sony. The 80D will have better ergonomics, faster overall operation, much better menus, a much better lens system, better AF tracking, better video AF tracking, amazing anti-flicker tech for indoor sports, a better flash system (with radio ETTL), a real optical viewfinder with zero lagginess, and better service if I ever need a repair. Just my personal preference.

That's all true, so forget about Sony. Are you interested in buying it, or just chimed in to defend Canon vs Sony? If this body interests you, please share what kind of shooting are you going to use it for and why not buy any of the other Canon bodies? I'm seriously trying to understand who will buy this.

The 70D already interested me enough to buy it. And it's been excellent — I already listed its positives above. For what I paid, it's just fantastic (handling, AF, high ISO, battery life, viewfinder, etc.). I have more expensive Canon bodies, but the 70D is the absolute best value ($680USD from Canada, including shipping). Now the 80D comes along and it's even better. Wow! What's not to like? Some people have this strange idea that each new model has to be a compelling upgrade from the previous, making people rush out to replace their 2-year old cameras. That's silly. If the old model was excellent for its price (the 70D was) and the new model improves a bunch of things (the 80D does), then it's a win for the company and for potential buyers. Some people will buy it as their first camera, others will buy it as an upgrade/replacement, and others will buy it as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th camera, or maybe for its video and swivel screen. It has something for many types of buyers and many kinds of shooting situations. The nature of DSLRs is that they're very flexible and adaptable to many types of photography, and thus appealing to many kinds of buyers.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market? What are the key competitive differentiators against cameras like the Sony a6300?

I would rather use the 80D than any Sony. The 80D will have better ergonomics, faster overall operation, much better menus, a much better lens system, better AF tracking, better video AF tracking, amazing anti-flicker tech for indoor sports, a better flash system (with radio ETTL), a real optical viewfinder with zero lagginess, and better service if I ever need a repair. Just my personal preference.

That's all true, so forget about Sony. Are you interested in buying it, or just chimed in to defend Canon vs Sony? If this body interests you, please share what kind of shooting are you going to use it for and why not buy any of the other Canon bodies? I'm seriously trying to understand who will buy this.

The 70D already interested me enough to buy it. And it's been excellent — I already listed its positives above. For what I paid, it's just fantastic (handling, AF, high ISO, battery life, viewfinder, etc.). I have more expensive Canon bodies, but the 70D is the absolute best value ($680USD from Canada, including shipping). Now the 80D comes along and it's even better. Wow! What's not to like? Some people have this strange idea that each new model has to be a compelling upgrade from the previous, making people rush out to replace their 2-year old cameras. That's silly. If the old model was excellent for its price (the 70D was) and the new model improves a bunch of things (the 80D does), then it's a win for the company and for potential buyers. Some people will buy it as their first camera, others will buy it as an upgrade/replacement, and others will buy it as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th camera, or maybe for its video and swivel screen. It has something for many types of buyers and many kinds of shooting situations. The nature of DSLRs is that they're very flexible and adaptable to many types of photography, and thus appealing to many kinds of buyers.

Wise words.
Rarely see thoughts as sane in internet forums.

Welcome to Canonrumors.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

The post office just got a ton of letters of support from starving kids in 3rd world countries expressing their sympathy for those disappointed in yet another boring Canon camera. :-[ :-[

 

[Chaitanya]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Here are detailed specs of the camera:
http://digicame-info.com/2016/02/eos-80d-3.html

Looks like serious meh, a camera that should have been made 2 years back to compete with Nikon D7100. Today this camera is serious piece of garbage being dumped by Canon after snuffing drugs.

 

[RustyTheGeek]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Ugh, I loathe the contempt for civil dialogue here. Not to mention the poor spelling

This looks like a fine addition to the XXD line. Like ANY camera body, is it for everyone? No. None will ever be.

LOL! Wut du U meen, biyatch? Luuks fien 2 me! ;D :

Yes, I agree. And I may very well buy an 80D myself! I was very impressed with the 70D. In fact, I might just buy another 70D cheap and then buy the 80D next Black Friday!

Oooh! 8)

 

[ritholtz]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Here are detailed specs of the camera:
http://digicame-info.com/2016/02/eos-80d-3.html

Looks like serious meh, a camera that should have been made 2 years back to compete with Nikon D7100. Today this camera is serious piece of garbage being dumped by Canon after snuffing drugs.

70D handily beat D7100 in almost every area. You can just buy 70D and save the money if that is all you need.
Check this great Michael epic shootout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOM4r1gxsbs

 

[ritholtz]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Ugh, I loathe the contempt for civil dialogue here. Not to mention the poor spelling

This looks like a fine addition to the XXD line. Like ANY camera body, is it for everyone? No. None will ever be.

LOL! Wut du U meen, biyatch? Luuks fien 2 me! ;D :

Yes, I agree. And I may very well buy an 80D myself! I was very impressed with the 70D. In fact, I might just buy another 70D cheap and then buy the 80D next Black Friday!

Oooh! 8)

Same here. Next black friday, I will be buying refurbished 80D from Canon store. 10-18mm is another reason to stick with Canon for crop users.

 

[Woody]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

I think the most interesting spec is the continuous shooting in liveview. It would seem clear that Canon is taking DPAF to the next level and working towards a day (not too far away) in which it will perform at the level of their standard PDAF. Once they (choose to?) do that, they can easily release mirrorless versions of their DSLRs if they want.

Yes, yes, yes...

The 80D has the best of DSLR and mirrorless worlds: 100% OVF, great DPAF in continuous mode, acceptable weight (can be lower), nice ergonomics, touchscreen for AF selection. These are specs that the D7200 (pathetic live view AF) and A6300 (awful ergonomics, no touchscreen, no OVF) can only dream of.

Let me see if I can find the camera for testing when it is released.

 

[ritholtz]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

I think the most interesting spec is the continuous shooting in liveview. It would seem clear that Canon is taking DPAF to the next level and working towards a day (not too far away) in which it will perform at the level of their standard PDAF. Once they (choose to?) do that, they can easily release mirrorless versions of their DSLRs if they want.

Yes, yes, yes...

The 80D has the best of DSLR and mirrorless worlds: 100% OVF, great DPAF in continuous mode, acceptable weight (can be lower), nice ergonomics, touchscreen for AF selection. These are specs that the D7200 (pathetic live view AF) and A6300 (awful ergonomics, no touchscreen, no OVF) can only dream of.

Let me see if I can find

Built in flash commander (pop up flash firing external flash) compared to Sony a6000. Even rebels have it from t3i. Nikon pathetic live view AF is still like that even in D5 and D500.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

Looks like serious meh, a camera that should have been made 2 years back to compete with Nikon D7100. Today this camera is serious piece of garbage being dumped by Canon after snuffing drugs.

Yep, that's exactly why Nikon has been losing dSLR market share, and Canon has gained. I think we know who's cognition is chemically altered...