UPDATED: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

[dufflover]

Re: Canon EOS 80D Specifications

OK much better then lol.
As for an upgrade from the 70D then for me it will definitely come down to the smarts you don't really see on basic specs even after release; stuff like buffer flush times, AF tracking smarts (prediction, refresh speeds, etc) and how it takes TCs.

Then again my 70D had it's first random Err30 today - luckily (?!) it happened in the last second of a burst which did not "cost" me anything really in the shot (once-off plane spot) but it's definitely not a good sign. If the worst should happen I would probably content enough to get the 80D, price/value allowing over say the 5D-series in it's current 5D3 form - the Live View AF + touchscreen is just too useful for me as a shooting option.

 

[ScottyP]

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I think the 1st series (xxd) to innovate DPAF should now innovate something cool to do with it in the 80d. Either automatic afma or a dual pixel dual exposure DR trick.

 

[nhz]

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Given Canon's now proven commitment for a new sensor fab process, the 80D may arrive as the first crop body with the new on sensor ADC. Could be a major shift for Canon. That type of fab process isnt something you just build for one model.

I think it's highly unlikely that this sensor has the new ADC technology.

It's almost surely going to be the same disappointing sensor that's in the T6s.

Agree, nothing suggests a real improvement in sensor so very likely at best a tweaked version of the T6 sensor.

 

[nhz]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market?

target buyer: primarily the fanboys and collectors who buy every new model. It's the usual Canon upgrade with some minor tweaks in features and controls, nothing that could threaten a higher up model and of course you pay through the nose for the small improvements. For those who have the 70D how much reason is there to upgrade? They usually claim the 70D AF and sensor are excellent, no need to make any changes ...

 

[nhz]

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as so often with Canon: too little, too late. This should have been the 70D or even better, the 60D. Vari-angle touchscreen, decent AF module, WiFi, GPS, NFC built in and hopefully a halfway competitive sensor. Would have competed well against Nikon D7000/1000/7200.

In 2016? Just another boring old mirrorslapper.
And yes, the same specs in an EOS-M4 would be fairly nice.

Well this beats Nikon's D7200 so I wouldn't say it's too little at all (sensor performance is a mystery for now).

Agree with the M4 part though. They could split the pixels once more tho to get "quad pixel AF" ie. cross-type af at every point. My girlfriend currently uses oly E-M10 so it would be quite nice if she was able to use my EF-lenses in a canon (mirrorless) body. M3 would otherwise be okayish, but it doesn't have EVF + EF(-S) lenses doesn't work so well on it AFAIK.

Sensor performance isn't a mystery. D7200 has probably the best APS-C sensor on the market, with excellent low ISO and high ISO performance. Not a chance that the 80D comes even close IMHO (worse: I bet that even the cheapest Nikon DSLRs have a better sensor), so I don't see how this camera 'beats D7200' (admittedly, it has a tilt screen which the D7200 lacks, but that's about it).

 

[RustyTheGeek]

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UHS-II SD card support?

I do not expect CFast support

I think the 80D caters to the consumer market and consumers prefer SD, not CF. Heck, I even know some "mom photogs" that have owned 5D-II and L level gear that hate CF and prefer SD mainly because it plugs into their laptop without an adapter. :

 

[RustyTheGeek]

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So a drop in regular FPS? hmm that definitely sinks it for me.

No. CR messed up the post. It's 7 FPS viewfinder shooting and 5 FPS liveview DPAF AIS shooting.

24.2MP APS-C CMOS sensor
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
Continuous shooting 7 fps
Continuous shooting with live view 5 fps (AF tracking)
AF 45 points (all points cross type)
7560 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
ISO range: 100-16,000
Viewfinder has 100% field of view
3 inches vari-angle LCD monitor, touchscreen
Video: full HD 60fps
Time-lapse movie
HDR
Creative filters
Built-in Wi-Fi, NFC
Remote control from smartphone

Thank you! I assumed as much. Now, can someone please tell me what AIS shooting is? Somehow I'm just not connecting on that. (But I can still remember where the bathroom is so I'm good.)

 

[markhbfindlay]

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I love my 70d and it pairs nicely with my 5d3. I have 3 ways of using my cameras... 5d3 on its own with 24-105 F4, 5d3 with 16-35mm F4 together with 70d + 24-105f4; gives me 16mm to 160mm equivalent range. One in each bike pannier this morning. or when that's all too heavy, 70d with 15-85 mm, a lens with isn't quite up to the 24-105 but plenty usable....

So what's this to do with the 80d? Well it's not quite enough of an upgrade for now as the image quality from the 70d is superb so long as you are aware of its limitations; the autofocus both TTL and Live View is fine for me. But I will see what I feel when some more specs and reviews come out.

Oh and finally I have an Olympus EM10 mk 1 for when I really need to be light and just to carry around, plus my Samsung Note 4.

What do I photograph? Sunsets and sunrises down Brighton (UK) beach in winter; woodlands, garden scenery; sometimes family...

I love my Canon equipment; no interest in Sony, my hands know the controls; it's like riding my old Bob Jackson bike. They just fit and do the job.

I'll add another post later with some sample images.

 

[RustyTheGeek]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this?

People like me who want a semipro camera, that has a swivel lcd screen which is very handy when shooting with a tripod, fast enough to shoot sports and not very expensive.

I agree. The 80D, much like the 70D, is for folks who want a better camera than a Rebel but are unwilling to spend $3500 for a 5D series camera. A new 5D series camera is for them what a 1D series camera is for me. Totally out of my price range for a single body to get a lot of camera I don't need or won't appreciate.

I don't do video that much but the 70D and 80D are (currently) Canon's best affordable video bodies for DSLR.

I think it's rather a fluke right now however that the amazing 7D-II is so inexpensive in comparison to the 70D or 80D. The 7D-II price dropped pretty darn fast!

All that said, I initially bought the 70D for the 7 fps. I was very happy with the 70D overall. I only sold it to buy a great price deal I got on a 7D2. I wanted the 7D2 for the de-flicker feature where I used it in gyms a lot. Now that the 80D has de-flicker... hmmm. I might be able to sell the 7D2 before the price drops any further and be happy with the 80D. My gym shooting has dropped to nill for a while anyway and my main camera is the 5D3 most of the time.

So that is my long answer to why the 70D/80D is appealing to (IMHO) a lot of people. Pros and Enthusiasts alike.

 

[CropFactor]

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So a drop in regular FPS? hmm that definitely sinks it for me.

No. CR messed up the post. It's 7 FPS viewfinder shooting and 5 FPS liveview DPAF AIS shooting.

24.2MP APS-C CMOS sensor
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
Continuous shooting 7 fps
Continuous shooting with live view 5 fps (AF tracking)
AF 45 points (all points cross type)
7560 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
ISO range: 100-16,000
Viewfinder has 100% field of view
3 inches vari-angle LCD monitor, touchscreen
Video: full HD 60fps
Time-lapse movie
HDR
Creative filters
Built-in Wi-Fi, NFC
Remote control from smartphone

Indeed, that would have been the same frame rate as a 760D (5fps).
Well, I can't complain about any of the 80D specs, still rocking an 8 year old 450D.
The 15-85 is jumping around in my bag with excitement at the prospect of finally being mated to a more decent body :
Always wanted 100% viewfinder and a level indicator, the 450D focus points are NOT horizontal! That is such a pain, I can't use the appropriate words here to describe it

Canon, take my money now! ;D

 

[rrcphoto]

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Given Canon's now proven commitment for a new sensor fab process, the 80D may arrive as the first crop body with the new on sensor ADC. Could be a major shift for Canon. That type of fab process isnt something you just build for one model.

I think it's highly unlikely that this sensor has the new ADC technology.

It's almost surely going to be the same disappointing sensor that's in the T6s.

Except that sensor isn't dpaf? Derp.

 

[kevl]

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I can't be the first one to notice (but I'm not going to read the whole thread) but I for one am mostly looking forward to remote "hooting" with my smartphone.

 

[melbournite]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this?

Well me for example.
The guys who ran arround with the 30D, 60D etc..m
The guys who own a 5D3 but discover that their camera bag with a 5D, 24-70 and 100-400 is a very bulky and heavy thing comapered to a 80D with the 17-55 and 70-200
Also those People with small Hands who do not like the 7D ergonomics
Those who Need to swivel the Screen or believe that a System with DPAF but no Touchscreen is a waste.

And in my Situation:
The 100% viewfinder + 45 AF fields + DPAF means I get an semi-pro camera which allows me to choose a live view AF experience as bad as my M3 or a viefinder AF as good or better as Canon ever offered for that Money.
Ah and I can use my very heavy Investment on lenses now on a crop Body which uses a Megapixel Count that drove me just two years ago to belch out a lot of bucks for the 5D3.

Interesting. You're the second person in as many posts interesting in switching from a 5D3 to an 80D.

Too be clear. I am switching nothing here. I love my 5D and will keep it as my main camera for photography. I also own a 100D and a Sony A6000. The Sony is great from a autofocus in video mode perspective but doesn't have a mic in and the audio is just awful. The 100D is great for audio but does focus hunting during video recording. Not working either. The A6300 would be an option to me but from a price perspective and the lens choices and that I had bad experiences in the past with Sony in regards to their quality and service and also I like to continue to invest in great canon optics keeps me from buying the A6300 and looking at the 80D instead

+1
I'm another user of two 5D's and looking at the 80D for all of the above reasons. I certainly won't be selling my 5D's however. Does that help with your question VirtualRain?

 

[jebrady03]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market?

target buyer: primarily the fanboys and collectors who buy every new model. It's the usual Canon upgrade with some minor tweaks in features and controls, nothing that could threaten a higher up model and of course you pay through the nose for the small improvements. For those who have the 70D how much reason is there to upgrade? They usually claim the 70D AF and sensor are excellent, no need to make any changes ...

I know this camera has only been leaked and the full press release isn't out, but I have to assume that it's not written anywhere in the press release that Canon is looking for every, or even any 70D owners to upgrade. Your sh***y assumptions, lack of technical expertise and first hand information, as well as your complete lack of market surveys and analysis don't make this camera a dog. It just means you're spouting off about something you know very little (being generous here) about.

 

[rrcphoto]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market?

target buyer: primarily the fanboys and collectors who buy every new model. It's the usual Canon upgrade with some minor tweaks in features and controls, nothing that could threaten a higher up model and of course you pay through the nose for the small improvements. For those who have the 70D how much reason is there to upgrade? They usually claim the 70D AF and sensor are excellent, no need to make any changes ...

I know this camera has only been leaked and the full press release isn't out, but I have to assume that it's not written anywhere in the press release that Canon is looking for every, or even any 70D owners to upgrade. Your sh***y assumptions, lack of technical expertise and first hand information, as well as your complete lack of market surveys and analysis don't make this camera a dog. It just means you're spouting off about something you know very little (being generous here) about.

from a 70D what's not to love? more Mp's with same fps, nicer viewfinder, custom C1 and C2 modes, a very significant AF upgrade, and flicker control.

what remains to be seen . is it a good upgrade with same sensor tech - or a even better upgrade with new sensor tech.

 

[rrcphoto]

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Not to be a jackass, but who is the target buyer for this? The DSLR market is quickly becoming niche, or more accurately, a series of niche markets... Pro sports: 1D, Wedding and events: 5D, Wildlife: 7D, Enthusiast: 6D,... Who is the 80D targeted at? What are they doing with it? Is it a decent sized market? What are the key competitive differentiators against cameras like the Sony a6300?

the massive install base that is playing around with rebels. if you look at the ergonomics of the xxD line now, it's a hybrid mix of rebel and 7D/5D/1 series ergonomics. it's a bridge between consumer and prosumer.

the 6D is that same bridge between prosumer and consumer - albeit with a full frame sensor.

 

[j-p]

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No mention of f/8 AF?

 

[Etienne]

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Excited to see that Canon has diligently and coherently taken care that moving between 45 AF points won't be a nuisance... or not.

Agreed, I was surprised by the lack of a joystick but maybe that is normal for this series.

Canon does this to make sure that there is quite a bit of differentiation between the high end models and mid/low models.

Perhaps, though the 50D had a joystick. Not sure about the other models. Makes sense to have a joystick so you can toggle between AF points more easily.

You can select the AF point using the touch screen, so it will be even faster than the toggle.

 

[gsealy]

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Even though I get involved in creating videos or taking stills that require planning and quality with expensive cameras and lens, I also like using cameras like the 70D and the Rebels. The reason is that they provide adequate quality for certain situations and they are versatile and light. Many times I am out at a location and I want to shoot some stills or a short video that will be used for marketing and communication on social media. Boom, I bring out my Rebel t4i, hook up my Rode Micro and I am shooting/creating within seconds. A lot of these situations are spur of the moment and there isn't a lot of planning. I usually have the camera and a light zoom lens in the bag along with the mic all the time, so when the situation presents itself I can capture it. Is the final product going to be world class? No. But it will be pretty darn good, communicate with people and continue to create interest, which is the goal. So yeah, I can see buying an 80D in the future.

 

[Etienne]

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The only feature I would like to have is GPS. Other than that it's a great camera for me.

You have a 5D3 according to your sig... So that's an interesting thing to say... Why is this a great camera for you?

I like to have a camera that can shoot great videos and photos including AF during video so I can see myself. With the tilting screen and mic in this is perfect.

Same here. I have a 5D3, 60D, EOS-M3, but I would love a moire-free video DSLR with great AF so that I can leave it unattended during interviews. Also great for tracking movement during video.

Swivel screen, touchscreen for focus pulling, DPAF for accurate AF, make sure DPAF works with all Canon lenses not just STM, hopefully fixed the moire and aliasing problems in the 70D. If they do that, I'll buy one for sure. And I'll get the M4 if it gets that treatment too.

Still keeping my 5D3 though ... best value full frame!