*UPDATED* Is This The Canon EOS M5?

[1Zach1]

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Wow I hope not.

 

[AvTvM]

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Also note that Canon likes to put the front wheel underneath the shutter button on EOS-M, I think it's just a little hard to see in the drawing.

hmmm ... loooking again, there seems to be a knurled ring-wheel around the shutter button.

Just like the M3 then?

yep, looks same or very similar.

 

[hachu21]

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I bet that those are launch pictures with some pencil effect filter applied.
Like it or not, it's a M3 with :
- updated sensor (hopefully DPAF)
- EVF
- on-board flash
- Digic 7 (hopefuly as well!)

 

[docsmith]

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That looks like a camera I might buy. I was hoping for a pop-up EVF, to help minimize size, but this is not that much larger, so it is still small.

Give it fast AF, dSLR menu, and a current generation sensor, I would be very tempted to upgrade from my M1 and further expand my EF-m gear (currently only the 22 and 18-55 lenses).

 

[ddrik]

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I don't think it's the real thing, the lens seems out of alignment with the rest of the body.
doesn't mean the M5 could look very similar with the viewfinder in that position.

Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

I'm expecting a fully articulating flipscreen like in the G5X will be introduced in the M series.

 

[scyrene]

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Sketch? Looks more like a photo that has been run through a couple of Photoshop filters.

That's what I thought too.

+1

 

[ggweci]

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Alright, so for everyone who thinks this is too big or not big enough or for the pople who are glad that it now has a bigger grip I have prepared this quick overlay for you.
To me it looks like it's exactly the same size as the M3, just with a little bump for the EVF. I tried to align the Lens as best as I could so it's not 100% perfectly aligned (it was hard enough to find a pic with the same perspective).
If this thing is real I'm quite happy. I like the size and grip of the M3 and I prefer the M3 styling over the G5X styling and button/dial layout. M3 feels more natural and thought out. I also think that nowadays anything that even remotely looks like a SLR of the film era (not as thick as todays DSLRs) will get the monicker of retro styling so I'm not disappointed that it doesn't look like a Canon A1/ AE1. Actually I'm wuite happy with the design. Looks like a mini 5D.
It's a shame though that they go for those silly strap lugs. I may be the only one who prefers the EOS M lugs wit the quick detach strap but I would have been OK with the M3 lugs as well. Those things suggested here are really not nice to use especially for your right hand. Those little key ring triangle things are somehow always in the way.

Nice comparison overlay - thanks. This is what I expected when I saw the "drawing" of the M5. Looks good IMO.

As for the strap lugs, I prefer this style for mirrorless compare to the M3 ones. I find them better when using no strap, as they are a smaller profile (sans triangles) and I use detachable straps like the peak design ones and find that their attachments work great with these lugs on smaller cameras. On DSLRs, the standard Canon ones are great.

 

[Stichus III]

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Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

The flipscreen does not look similar to the one on the M3. The screen on the M3 has 2 squared shapes on the top side of the screen, which are obviously absent here. These squared shapes on the M3 are part of the top hinge.

 

[LDS]

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What's wrong if *one* model in the M line up is somewhat bigger than the others and offers a more DSLR-like experience? If this was the *only* model I can understand critics - but if Canon would make different models with the EF-M mount, some smaller, lighter and more pocketable (maybe with no EVF, grips, less dials, etc.), and other bigger and with a different ergonomics aimed at photographers who may prefer that, what's the issue? Just look at the G5X and G7X. Different designs for different users. One doesn't replace the other.
I really find funny some people believe each and every model must be designed for their own very needs only. Isn't the model for you? Pass, and wait for the next one.

 

[StudentOfLight]

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Alright, so for everyone who thinks this is too big or not big enough or for the pople who are glad that it now has a bigger grip I have prepared this quick overlay for you.
To me it looks like it's exactly the same size as the M3, just with a little bump for the EVF. I tried to align the Lens as best as I could so it's not 100% perfectly aligned (it was hard enough to find a pic with the same perspective).
If this thing is real I'm quite happy. I like the size and grip of the M3 and I prefer the M3 styling over the G5X styling and button/dial layout. M3 feels more natural and thought out. I also think that nowadays anything that even remotely looks like a SLR of the film era (not as thick as todays DSLRs) will get the monicker of retro styling so I'm not disappointed that it doesn't look like a Canon A1/ AE1. Actually I'm wuite happy with the design. Looks like a mini 5D.
It's a shame though that they go for those silly strap lugs. I may be the only one who prefers the EOS M lugs wit the quick detach strap but I would have been OK with the M3 lugs as well. Those things suggested here are really not nice to use especially for your right hand. Those little key ring triangle things are somehow always in the way.

To supplement the overlay you posted earlier here is a gif...

 

[Quackator]

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I am still mad at them for not providing the
option to disable exposure simulation in the M3.

Impossible to use with studio flash and simple
radio triggers in the studio. Or dumb strobist
flashes and simple triggers.

They better provide that this time. And fix the
firmware for the M3 for that.

 

[1kind]

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Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

The flipscreen does not look similar to the one on the M3. The screen on the M3 has 2 squared shapes on the top side of the screen, which are obviously absent here. These squared shapes on the M3 are part of the top hinge.

Since the M5 looks to have built-in EVF, the flip screen will probably flip down and not up since the evf will be in the way.

 

[AvTvM]

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What's wrong if *one* model in the M line up is somewhat bigger than the others and offers a more DSLR-like experience? If this was the *only* model I can understand critics - but if Canon would make different models with the EF-M mount, some smaller, lighter and more pocketable (maybe with no EVF, grips, less dials, etc.), and other bigger and with a different ergonomics aimed at photographers who may prefer that, what's the issue? Just look at the G5X and G7X. Different designs for different users. One doesn't replace the other.
I really find funny some people believe each and every model must be designed for their own very needs only. Isn't the model for you? Pass, and wait for the next one.

To me it is like with cars: I want performance in a small package ... like a Mini Cooper S ... not some sorry underpowerperforming Hundai Pony or VW Fox.

So, if Canon made 2 versions of M5 - one big, one small, no problem - I'll buy the small one. But since Canon very likely will only make one version and all other Canon M bodies are sorry, underpowered dogs without built-in EVF, I want this new dog to be *powerful and as small as feasible*. 8)

My ideal EOS M would be a body similar to Sony RX1R-II with minimum Canon 80D performance, full EOS user interface and that fine EF-M mount up front.

 

[Loswr]

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I really find funny some people believe each and every model must be designed for their own very needs only.

Indeed, and it it's not, well then, Canon is doomed. :

 

[rrcphoto]

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I really find funny some people believe each and every model must be designed for their own very needs only.

Indeed, and it it's not, well then, Canon is doomed. :

or stupid :

 

[ddrik]

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Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

The flipscreen does not look similar to the one on the M3. The screen on the M3 has 2 squared shapes on the top side of the screen, which are obviously absent here. These squared shapes on the M3 are part of the top hinge.

Since the M5 will have a built-in EVF, the flip screen won't be able to flip up. It will now flip down.

they better introduce it with a new kind of tripod than.
and if that tripod would mount to the hotshoe.. a downwards flipping screen would be just fine.
in any other case. i'd prefer a fully articulated flipscreen over a down flipping screen anytime

 

[Stichus III]

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Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

The flipscreen does not look similar to the one on the M3. The screen on the M3 has 2 squared shapes on the top side of the screen, which are obviously absent here. These squared shapes on the M3 are part of the top hinge.

Since the M5 will have a built-in EVF, the flip screen won't be able to flip up. It will now flip down.

Or the screen will be fully articulating. The M3 screen flips both up and down. Flipping only down will certainly be a sizable step back.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: Is This The Canon EOS M5?

Another thing that makes me assume this is not the real M5 is the fact that the flipscreen looks too similar to the M3, and with the viewfinder, flipping the screen up wouldn't really be very practical, if not impossible.

The flipscreen does not look similar to the one on the M3. The screen on the M3 has 2 squared shapes on the top side of the screen, which are obviously absent here. These squared shapes on the M3 are part of the top hinge.

Since the M5 will have a built-in EVF, the flip screen won't be able to flip up. It will now flip down.

Or the screen will be fully articulating.

no side hinge

 

[AvTvM]

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I really find funny some people believe each and every model must be designed for their own very needs only. Isn't the model for you? Pass, and wait for the next one.

Not EVERY model. Just ONE every 3-5 years. The one I will buy.

 

[AvTvM]

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An OVF/EVF that protruded more might not be a bad idea...

I'd prefer a pop-up EVF left top. Like on Sony RX100 3 / 4 and on RX1R II. Nose does not touch LCD then. And a left hinged, full articulated LCD would also be compatible with it. With Canon touchscreen, stupid Sony!