Canon EOS R5 Specifications

[Quarkcharmed]

R was destined to be an early adopter oriented conceptual product. once again, I am sorry for raining on R owners day.

I had very similar thoughts on that. It looked like Canon deliberately didn't put the line number after the R as if they wanted to mislead consumers, but at the same time give them a hint it was an experimental product. But they couldn't publicly tell everyone it was an interim transitional body to serve as a mere mount for the beautiful RF glass.

 

[Michael Clark]

Glass is eternal, bodies have a short life. Take the 135L, I'd buy it today if I didn't already have it.

The 135L is about the only reason I'd be interested in IBIS.

 

[Michael Clark]

Yes. Because R cameras can still be used with existing EF lenses. Therefore they are not orphaned but will fade away over time as they are replaced by better R glass. Canon thought this through much better than when the EF lens mount was introduced.

They also thought through very well that 1-series users would not yet be ready to move to mirrorless. Perhaps there is a much higher percentage of 5-series users not yet ready to move to mirrorless as well? Not everyone with a 5-series body uses it the same way you might use a 5-series body.

P.S. Canon also thought it through much better than Nikon in 1987 when they decided to make a clean break from the mechanical FD to the all electronic EF mount for technological reasons and Nikon decided to stick with the F-mount for marketing reasons. At the time, four out of five imaging pros shooting in the 135mm format used Nikon. Within five short years, Canon was the number one 135 format camera being used by imaging pros.

 

[slclick]

I have an R and will definitely upgrade to an R5, but the only RF lens I bought, and the only RF lenses I will likely get in the near future are the unicorns (RF 28-70mm f/2). My EF lenses work perfectly on the R, so no reason to duplicated them.

Here's what I use and am very happy with. Keep in mind I have been using EF glass since 1999 and used to be a sell to buy lens person based upon changing needs and desires based upon styles and genres. I am very settled in my usage and cannot see moving away from this set:

16-35 f/4L, 24-105 f/4L IS ii, 100-400 Mkii,1.4 TC iii, 40, 100L, 135L. Various Specialty lenses such as Lensbaby and Holgas.

I would probably invest in a Control ring as opposed to the standard adapter as I am more concerned with it's build than the function (which is a plus) over the regular ef-rf adapter. The filter adapters are a poor concept without a blank slot to fill when not being used for filter reasons, that was disappointing to see.

 

[Michael Clark]

My first DSLR was the Canon D6, around 1998, I think. It was about $2,000 and had a 6MP APSC-sized sensor. I didn’t even know what dynamic range was. I forget the FPS, but not much. I put a grand down at the local camera store — remember those? — and waited about nine months for it because of the back orders. Three months after I picked it up, Canon announced the improved and cheaper 10D. It’s really been an amazing photographic ride ever since.

The EOS D60 replaced the EOS D30 in early 2002, and was replaced by the 10D almost exactly one year later.

 

[Michael Clark]

I agree. But I don't think it was meant for the average joe either, just like the 1Dx is not everybodies cup of tea. Mostly by budgetary reasons.

What is a 1Dx? Has Nikon came out with a cropped body model with "1" designation? "Dx" is a Nikon designation for cropped sensors and APS-C only lenses.

Or do you mean the Canon EOS 1D X?

 

[SecureGSM]

It is called natural progression, but it is also differentiation.
Enough time has passed with the development that now they are able to match or exceed expectations about what people requested (which they were aware of much sooner than the start of their FF mirrorless system)
But it will also cost significantly more, because besides the development cost, it is a much more attractive, desirable, 'fresh' product, but it does mean that the other is trash (it was initially priced high compared to where it belongs, but at the current level it is a fine camera)

sorry, the point that I was trying to make was that R and RP are, in my view, a POC, MVP type of product by Canon's intent and by design.

 

[AEWest]

How many years did you shoot film before you transitioned to digital?

Almost 20.

 

[ahsanford]

With all this talk of new cameras coming it makes me wonder what will happen to the R and Rp.

R and RP, the day after R5 and R6 announcement:


Seriously, I think R and RP make a quiet exit once the prior 'FF SLR pecking order' is more or less restored. My take from another thread:

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1-series --> R1​

5DS --> R2, R3, R4 or R5S?​

5D --> R5​

​

R --> ​

6D --> R6​

​

RP --> ​

7D --> R7 (if it happens at all)​

Sorry, no tombstone emoji.

- A

 

[davo]

I would probably invest in a Control ring as opposed to the standard adapter as I am more concerned with it's build than the function (which is a plus) over the regular ef-rf adapter. The filter adapters are a poor concept without a blank slot to fill when not being used for filter reasons, that was disappointing to see.

There is a clear glass filter to plug the opening. This also serves as a total dust blocker when swapping lenses.

 

[slclick]

There is a clear glass filter to plug the opening. This also serves as a total dust blocker when swapping lenses.

I read comments on the reviews of the two filters on the B&H site and there were multiple complaints which lead me to that conclusion. They all were certified purchasers and they cried out for the lack of a plug. Go figure

 

[Michael Clark]

Maybe it's that Euro/USA/Japanese naming scheme disfunction? It might have been known here as the Rebel XT2000 ll

That was/would have been a 135 format film camera...

 

[slclick]

There is a clear glass filter to plug the opening. This also serves as a total dust blocker when swapping lenses.

Oh I see, there's a $129 additional glass clear filter. That's.... what's the word?


LAME

So after $399 + $129 for that combo, you could have been halfway to another RF lens or purchased a much better complete filter system such as one from Formatt Hi Tech

 

[slclick]

That was a 135 format film camera...

I made it up.

 

[navastronia]

R and RP, the day after R5 and R6 announcement:


Seriously, I think R and RP make a quiet exit once the prior 'FF SLR pecking order' is more or less restored. My take from another thread:

​

1-series --> R1​

5DS --> R2, R3, R4 or R5S?​

5D --> R5​

​

R --> ​

6D --> R6​

​

RP --> ​

7D --> R7 (if it happens at all)​

Sorry, no tombstone emoji.

- A

Do you really think Canon will cede the low-end FF market? The RP is a hell of a lot of camera for $1K. I can't see Canon not making an RPII someday, and an R6 will cost at least $1800.

 

[Michael Clark]

I made it up.

Yeah, but any digital EF camera Canon has ever released has had a "D" in the model name. The absence of a "D" in an EOS Ef mount model name would mean it's a film camera.

 

[Michael Clark]

Do you really think Canon will cede the low-end FF market? The RP is a hell of a lot of camera for $1K. I can't see Canon not making an RPII someday, and an R6 will cost at least $1800.

There will probably be a stripped down FF model even more basic than the RP. Perhaps without an EVF and only an LCD like most of the m models? And a borked hot shoe like the 2000D/4000D? But it will not be a direct successor to the RP.

 

[Michael Clark]

I don't want similar, nor slightly better. Why to buy new camera at all then? We are ok with 30mpx. I think no wedding photogs would ask for more, or less, just a modest bump would be OK. We are also not a sports shooters, so I really don't care about the ultra-high framerate. We have top EF lens for the job given and even if we would start with R, we would still use those, as 5DIV would become our backup. So it mostly narrows down to focus capabilites (which are quite good with the 5DIV) and sensor performance. I would prefer staying with 30mpx and e.g. 1 stop better DR, than having 45 and something like equal or 1/3 of the stop range of an improvement ....

There's not one stop more DR to be found between current technology and theoretically perfect.

 

[Michael Clark]

M6 mk II already better than a 90D ......... and who would have thought Canon would have come out with a M series that we are legit going to want a sequel to?

I kinda would like to see a new version of the removable EVF at some point.

EOS M6 Mark II is already better than a 90D...

Until you want both an eye level viewfinder and a way to trigger off camera flashes! You can't do that with an M6 Mark II!

 

[Michael Clark]

10fps speed existed many many years ago and certainly before video...

10fps appears to have been the technological limit of Canon's mechanical shutters at the time. Thus they designed their sensors to be able to read out only slightly faster than 10 fps. Then they used technological advances in sensor readout speeds to create Dual Pixel CMOS AF rather than to increase their sensor readout speed by 2X.