DPReview: Canon EOS R5 and R6 overheating claims tested: cameras work as promised – but that’s not enough

I am not a video person and am buying this camera for the amazing upgrade in stills photography it will provide me. I also know that Canon targeted this camera as a replacement for the 5D Mark IV. That is a professional/semi-professional camera used by tons of event and wedding photographers. Many of those users have incorporated video into their portfolio of services and workflow. Thus I can understand everyone's frustrations and anxiety.

As a relatively uninterested observer I would offer a few perspectives. First, the vitriol about this camera and these limitations has been amazing and sad to see. It is a camera. It has positives and limitations over prior Canon offerings and other companies offerings. The internet and many forum posts have become a cesspool of anger and screaming over this offering especially since it was introduced within days of a video-centric offering with lower specs by Sony. The brand camps have gone completely nuts and I will probably quit going to DPReview as a results. The Sony camp has gone crazy trashing this Canon offering and the few Canon folks that are left on that forum are completely defensive and protective of a camera that clearly has some pros and cons depending on what and how you shoot.

Second, I also observe that even with some of the more negative reviews and comparisons have offered some interesting alternatives to overcome any deficiencies. Tony Northrup (often derided as anti-Canon) was quit complimentary of this enhancements in performance of DR, high ISO noise, shadow recovery, focusing system, IBIS, etc. These are all critical to my style of shooting and make me quite excited. Gordon (or whatever his name is) that performed the lengthy study related to each video setting and how long it would take to overheat also indicated that adding an Atomos Ninja external recording device would greatly expand the recording time even in higher resolution settings. I know this might not be a preferred or viable option for everyone, but if I were shooting this camera and had to spend less than $1000 to greatly enhance my video needs I think it would be a no brainer. I am sure I will be told how stupid I am and how naive my perspective is, but I plan to test the video when I receive my camera (to enhance some of my BIF shooting) and if I like the results and can work with the footage, I will likely add an Atomos to my kit to better leverage the feature.

We also don't know what creative solutions Canon will come up with to address some of the deficiencies (cooling adapter, firmware fixes, usage recommendations, etc.) but I expect once this camera gets into the masses hands it will not be the end of the world some want to make it out as.

Everyone needs to take three deep breaths, step away from their PC and go shoot some puppies, flowers and children.

Bob
 
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Check this Sony support-page
"If you're using your camera to record long movie clips or shooting many continuous bursts of still pictures, the temperature inside the camera increases. If the temperature becomes too high, a warning icon may appear and the camera shuts down to protect the circuitry. This isn't a failure and your camera simply needs to be turned off for several minutes so it can cool down. "

It shouldn't be of much trouble for you to just check camera-manuals from various brands.

Where does it mention stills here?
 
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OK, Spend $2,500,000 on a 250mph Bugatti and get pissed when it runs out of a full tank of fuel after 12 minutes, because that is what it does and that is life my friend. So run your Chiron performance for 12 minutes and your $2,500,000 is a brick, the $4,000 Canon will still keep shooting video and stills because it will never brick like a Chiron out of fuel.

To me, Canon did not promise a supercar (lik Bugatti or Ferrari), they promised an Audi RS4 or BMW M5 (still 450HP) but delivered (mostly) a 150HP Audi A4 or BMW 5xx! ;)

In camera language, the R5 [even without overheating] won't replace the "supercar" cinema cameras (like Arris, RED's, or C500/700's) anytime soon. However as is, it is not much better than what is available in class for most use cases.

This is all fine, just announce the venerable A4 that you build.
 
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“This played out for DPRTV‘s Jordan Drake in real life. When shooting their EOS R6 review above on the R5, he avoided taking certain spontaneous shots, always had to keep the countdown timer in mind, and spent a lot of mental energy rationing the over-sampled 4K HQ footage and especially 4K/120p, which “really chews up your remaining shooting minutes.”


And this is the real problem, i cant shoot freely, im always worried that the camera could overheat so i have to conserve my use of the camera. Eventually you'll miss an important moment, thats why i wouldnt buy this camera, unless these issues were fixed.
 
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again youre saying more than an hour, but its more like a few minutes, unless its from a cold start. and then cool down for 2 hours to shoot again, what kind of professional would work like this?

even from a cold start its 30 minutes, but that's only continuous, the clock is running as long as the camera is on.

are you this much of a fan boy?

Where is your evidence that it will shorten video time when the camera is doing absolutely nothing? All the reviews I've seen say stills shooting will cut down the time, chimping or going through settings might lower the time, but you keep on saying if it's just on and not doing anything.

Also, you yourself posted this:

Showing Canon clearly mentioned the limits and that using the camera for other things can lower the time. So why are you so shocked and upset that the camera is doing exactly what Canon said it would, unless you're a Sony fanboy?
 
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Where is your evidence that it will shorten video time when the camera is doing absolutely nothing? All the reviews I've seen say stills shooting will cut down the time, chimping or going through settings might lower the time, but you keep on saying if it's just on and not doing anything.

Also, you yourself posted this:

Showing Canon clearly mentioned the limits and that using the camera for other things can lower the time. So why are you so shocked and upset that the camera is doing exactly what Canon said it would, unless you're a Sony fanboy?

here is is

 
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And this is the real problem, i cant shoot freely, im always worried that the camera could overheat so i have to conserve my use of the camera. Eventually you'll miss an important moment, thats why i wouldnt buy this camera, unless these issues were fixed.

When it comes to video.... yeah this is an issue. When it comes to stills... no it's not.
 
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It over heats in these modes. 4k60, 4k120, 4k24hq, and 4k30hq. at least 3 of them are good to shoot a 2020/2021AD wedding in.

If the Canon falls short in your particular needs then perhaps you shouldn’t buy it and should instead pursue a purchase of something that does.

Seems reasonable to me.
 
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Yes, it's well documented any use will add up on that video time. Where does it say it locks out of stills? It doesn't. In fact in his live stream he specifically states it never locks out of 4k24, or stills.

he later clarified that he took 30-40 photos, thats 1 photo every 2 minutes, if you think thats not an issue you're delusional
 
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My R5 is fine. YouTube gear specs junkies don’t make art, they make controversy for views. Imma go shoot some art while the internet plays tribal adventure.


Please post samples. I’m very disappointed that more examples of what this beauty can do aren’t up yet. I’d be a one man flood if I had mine.
 
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