No EOS-1D X Replacement in 2014 [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>There’s been some talk about an EOS-1D X replacement some time in 2014, and it has been discussed even more with the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/09/deal-canon-eos-1d-x-body-4799/" target="_blank">apparent price drop on the camera through grey market retailers</a>.</p>
<p>I have it from a good source that the EOS-1D X won’t be replaced in 2014, but should see an update in 2015. This is a pretty safe bet, especially judging by the EOS 7D Mark II features. That brand new 65 point AF system should be making its way to the EOS 5D Mark IV and EOS-1D X Mark II within the next 12-18 months.</p>
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[keithcooper]

Maybe at last the return of a Ds model - if of course all the high MP talk means anything ;-)

 

[dstppy]

Crap, my lens cap photography is greatly suffering!

 

[Lee Jay]

But when?

I'm mostly curious about the 5D replacement. Spring or not?

 

[whothafunk]

But when?

I'm mostly curious about the 5D replacement. Spring or not?

Not spring. Canon has to milk buyers with the 7D2 for a year or so. If they released 5D4 with 7D2's AF feature in spring (5 months after 7D2 got released (not introduced)), who would buy the 7D2, if the 5D4 offers same or even tweaked AF with slightly lower frame, but better IQ?

I find it strange they haven't introduced a new rebel yet. It's been 18 months now.

 

[Lee Jay]

Not spring. Canon has to milk buyers with the 7D2 for a year or so. If they released 5D4 with 7D2's AF feature in spring (5 months after 7D2 got released (not introduced)), who would buy the 7D2, if the 5D4 offers same or even tweaked AF with slightly lower frame, but better IQ?

I would. I would buy both. As it stands, I'll probably buy a 7DII and a 6D, but if the 5DIV comes out sooner than later, I'd probably buy it over the 6D.

 

[sanj]

I was not expecting one. It is not time yet.

 

[Dylan777]

Sad and good

Found this: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-high-megapixel-war-rumors-canon-46mp-camera-coming-soon-and-sony-in-januaryfebruary/

 

[scottkinfw]

A big disappointment.

Hopefully, a 5DII will come with some great surprises and soon.

Sek

 

[justsomedude]

Did anyone really expect another 1DX this year? I thought it was only the announcement of a new 1DX that people were looking forward to this calendar year.

 

[Dylan777]

A big disappointment.

Hopefully, a 5DII will come with some great surprises and soon.

Sek

Scott,
Worst case, rent one or two for your up coming trip

Dylan

 

[justsomedude]

Not spring. Canon has to milk buyers with the 7D2 for a year or so. If they released 5D4 with 7D2's AF feature in spring (5 months after 7D2 got released (not introduced)), who would buy the 7D2, if the 5D4 offers same or even tweaked AF with slightly lower frame, but better IQ?

I find it strange they haven't introduced a new rebel yet. It's been 18 months now.

I disagree with you on this point.

Those looking only for one camera, namely a 7D2, are not the target market for a 5D4. One is 2x the price of the other. However, those dropping 3600 for a 5D4 can also afford the 1800 for a 7D2. Also, they are two totally different formats/tools (crop&speed vs. full-frame&sensitivity). The extra reach of crop, vs. the creative capabilities of full-frame are huge factors to many pro buyers that cannot be ignored; saying it is just speed vs. slightly better IQ is an oversimplification of what the two bodies offer.

In short, the 7D2 won't effect sales of a 5D4. Buyers on a budget looking for one camera will get a 7D2. Pros with the budget for a 5D4 will either get only a 5D4, or both a 5D4 and a 7D2. They are a dangerous (ie, perfect) pairing.

 

[David Hull]

But when?

I'm mostly curious about the 5D replacement. Spring or not?

Didn't we just get one?

 

[tomscott]

What I find funny is if you go over to sonyalpharumors many people compare the new Exmor to the 5DMKIII and admit it is a better camera system all round.

These are all comments by sonyalpharumors members on the latest sensor threads.

"dynamic range at higher ISO's where the 5DIII's lurch ahead of their nikon/sony counterparts"

Funny how even they think DXO is dodgy "If you leave DxOMark planet and land back to earth, you'll see that in real life the difference is very very little, and after ISO400 Canon 6D and 5DMarkIII are as good as or better than Sony sensors"

Also most are in the same camp bout the mega pixel war and know that sony needs to create more native faster lenses 'I'd rather have faster autofocus, in body stabilization, quieter shutter and more native lenses (and faster ones) than more megapixels.'

From that article it seems they are excited to see what Canon do with this new sensor, because although sony make the best sensors their cameras and systems are a lot less than to be desired. Also How much more R&D do sony actually have after putting all into exmor?

Canon was in a similar position a few years ago and then regurgitated the same tech for the last 5 years so that will be interesting to see how far sony can push their tech and if Canon does have new tech how it will rival and the time scales because sony is to announce their new sensors early 2015.

I think thats what we are forgetting and a lot of people on here are the other way round ATM DR and resolution is all the rage and aggressively contested, forget about all that Canon has over its competition and that the 5DMKIII is far from being thrown to the parts bin.

 

[Lee Jay]

But when?

I'm mostly curious about the 5D replacement. Spring or not?

Didn't we just get one?

Yes, March 2nd of 2012.

The 7DII is not a 5DIII replacement.

 

[unfocused]

Just curious – why would Canon need to replace the 1D-X? It looks to me that the Nikon D4-S has similar or lesser specs. No other camera competes in this market segment, so why do people think it will be replaced anytime soon?

And, for that matter, why would the 5DIII need to be replaced?

 

[PureClassA]

I hope they pull a big surprise. 7D2 will have no measurable effect on a 5D3, let alone a 5D4. I don't understand why people keep trying to compare the two as competing bodies. They are not, nor will ever be. Not in price and not in use.

I think Canon needs to make a statement before 2015. We have the sensors out there. Even if from Sony. I'd love to see a Sony sensor in a Canon system. Talk about the best of everything!

 

[cnardo]

Not spring. Canon has to milk buyers with the 7D2 for a year or so. If they released 5D4 with 7D2's AF feature in spring (5 months after 7D2 got released (not introduced)), who would buy the 7D2, if the 5D4 offers same or even tweaked AF with slightly lower frame, but better IQ?

I find it strange they haven't introduced a new rebel yet. It's been 18 months now.

I disagree with you on this point.

Those looking only for one camera, namely a 7D2, are not the target market for a 5D4. One is 2x the price of the other. However, those dropping 3600 for a 5D4 can also afford the 1800 for a 7D2. Also, they are two totally different formats/tools (crop&speed vs. full-frame&sensitivity). The extra reach of crop, vs. the creative capabilities of full-frame are huge factors to many pro buyers that cannot be ignored; saying it is just speed vs. slightly better IQ is an oversimplification of what the two bodies offer.

In short, the 7D2 won't effect sales of a 5D4. Buyers on a budget looking for one camera will get a 7D2. Pros with the budget for a 5D4 will either get only a 5D4, or both a 5D4 and a 7D2. They are a dangerous (ie, perfect) pairing.

+1

 

[justsomedude]

And, for that matter, why would the 5DIII need to be replaced?

When people say a 5D "replacement," they are just referring to the update cycle. I don't think the 5D will be killed off and totally replaced any time soon. That said, I think everyone is expecting an update in line with Canon's historical 5D announcement schedule...

5D - Aug 2005
----3 years 1 month
5D2 - Sept 2008
----3 years 6 months
5D3 - March 2012
----3 years ?? months
5D4 - Expected Sometime 2015

 

[J.R.]

Just curious – why would Canon need to replace the 1D-X? It looks to me that the Nikon D4-S has similar or lesser specs. No other camera competes in this market segment, so why do people think it will be replaced anytime soon?

Canon released the 1DX in March, 2012. It took Nikon two years to catch up with the roughly comparable D4-S in March earlier this year (and some people say Canon doesn't innovate, but then that is another matter altogether ). I guess sometime next year, Canon will release the 1DX Mark-II and in doing so, will leapfrog Nikon again for the cycle to continue.