Canon EOS M Specs
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The same one who is suited for a G1x or the entry DSLR really..its smart for companies because its still a small form factor that makes it convenient to travel, but you can milk customers for money on lenses in a way you can't with the G1x.CrimsonBlue said:
Maybe in 5 years Canon will actually have the mirrorless thing figured out and I'll be interested, but, with all the likely problems of a first time system on top of the usual problems for early adopters, I think it'll be best to wait and see how it turns out.
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I for one am very interested. My wife and I love the 5DIII and have thought about buying a second body so she could have one to herself. However, she finds the form factor a little large for her to carry around all day. The idea that we could buy a point-and-shoot sized second camera with an APS-C sensor that can utilize our existing lens has its appeal.
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For those who don't get this camera, let me suggest that we may not understand the generational and cultural differences.
For old American guys like me, a viewfinder is non-negotiable. But for many people, especially the young, who shoot mostly with smartphones, the idea of sticking your eye up against the back of the camera is equally foreign and unnatural.
Over the last couple of years, I've often scratched my head at some of Canon's product announcements. But, I've also learned that they seldom get the market wrong. I expect this one to be a big winner.
For old American guys like me, a viewfinder is non-negotiable. But for many people, especially the young, who shoot mostly with smartphones, the idea of sticking your eye up against the back of the camera is equally foreign and unnatural.
Over the last couple of years, I've often scratched my head at some of Canon's product announcements. But, I've also learned that they seldom get the market wrong. I expect this one to be a big winner.
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unfocused said:
Yes, there is a huge generational disconnect. Many older photographers scoff at smartphone photography. But PJs are winning World Press awards, and being published in the pages of the NYTimes, using an iPhone/Hipstmatic. Sports Illustrated is publishing iPhone/Instagram photos. Neither of theses publications are what you'd call "bleeding edge."
I'm older-than-dirt, so I don't hold my NEX 5n at arms length. I've adopted to holding the camera just inches from my eyes (elbows braced against my chest), no-big-deal. I don't think I'll have a problem with the EF-M. YMMV
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I used to have a 550D/T2i, and if this is equal in image quality (and naturally if the lenses for this system performs great), then I don’t see why I wouldn’t choose this over a point and shoot or m4/3. I already have a Fuji X10, but the EF-compatibility of this camera would make it a better choice in my case.
The only thing I miss is a viewfinder. The other mirrorless manufacturers does have several models with different features (but often the same sensor), so that might just happen at a later point in time. I’m looking forward to it and tomorrow.
The only thing I miss is a viewfinder. The other mirrorless manufacturers does have several models with different features (but often the same sensor), so that might just happen at a later point in time. I’m looking forward to it and tomorrow.
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No body IS.
I guess it was a given, but doesnt pretty much every other mirrorless out there have it?
Maybe saving it for the more expensive body, like Olympus did with the 410 and 510.
I know Im dreaming. To me its just one of the obvious advantages of an electronic screen - you can see the effects of the IS working with body stabilisation.
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I guess it was a given, but doesnt pretty much every other mirrorless out there have it?
Maybe saving it for the more expensive body, like Olympus did with the 410 and 510.
I know Im dreaming. To me its just one of the obvious advantages of an electronic screen - you can see the effects of the IS working with body stabilisation.
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c.d.embrey said:
at risk of going a little OT which nex do you have? do you have an EF lens adaptor for it? if so how well does the EF adaptor work and is it a sony or 3rd party beast?
I find it difficult to get excited about another 18MP APS-C canon sensor
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CrimsonBlue said:
I have a panasonic GF series (similar size to the new Canon). With a pancake prime, it is jacket pocketable (it will fit in a pants pocket but it makes quite a bulge)
"Pocketable" is not the one true gold standard for compactness. Female camera buyers typically carry handbags, and the small mirrorless cameras will fit into a handbag quite easily. A DSLR with a standard zoom doesn't work nearly as well.
The physical size of a usable kit is much smaller. For example, my gf2 + 20mm pancake + 45mm will fit in my wife's purse. The 5DII + Sigma 85mm + 35L will not.
That's inconvenient for the manufacturer perhaps, but it doesn't in itself make the camera less desirable for the buyer (the implied wait before the lens lineup matures might be however)
DSLR users who want a less imposing companion to their big full frame but aren't willing to settle for point and shoot.
Users who want a good quality camera but want it to be smaller than a DSLR. It might take a sophisticated user to appreciate all the features offered by a 1DX or even a Rebel. It doesn't take a very sophisticated user to get annoyed with the time it takes for the AF system to lock on, the blurry images that result from slow shutter speed (due to the slow lens and ISO limitations of a small sensor camera), or red eye, ugly lighting and slow recharge from a P&S flash. This camera seems to be aimed at such users.
In the case of some of the high end mirrorless, some enthusiasts enjoy the ability to adapt lenses.
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This camera is pointless without a built in flash.
Once you attach an accessory flash it is no longer compact, totally defeats the purpose.
Will be sticking with the GF1.
Once you attach an accessory flash it is no longer compact, totally defeats the purpose.
Will be sticking with the GF1.
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c.d.embrey said:
Living in a "tourist city" (Melbourne) I cannot tell you how many DSLR users I see using only liveview to shoot. For me, I want to be able to brace the camera properly, and an eye-level viewfinder is pretty critical for that. That said, I never use the VF on a G-series, because it is a piece of cr@p.
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