This camera has some very impressive specs. It outclasses the EOS M5 and is going to cost less? Man...
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Iago said:I had hopes for this camera until I saw it shared this new sensor with the new T7. I suspect the Dynamic range will be an issue.
LSXPhotog said:This camera has some very impressive specs. It outclasses the EOS M5 and is going to cost less? Man...
80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor, and maybe new. I hoped it might be what would be going into the 90D, since it showed up in the T7, it is a valued manufactured sensor. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera. The last new sensor I am aware of was for the 6D Mark II, I did buy that camera, it could be better. I want Canon to be successful. They seem to be making bad choices.rrcphoto said:Iago said:I had hopes for this camera until I saw it shared this new sensor with the new T7. I suspect the Dynamic range will be an issue.
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yes because it's been an issue for the 80D,etc which also use a 24MP sensor.
Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
EOS 750D is 24.2 and the 80D is 24.2 They are different sensors with different DR results. SL2 and 80D same DR results. So I beleive the this new 24.1 and 24.2 from the 80D are different.jolyonralph said:Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
The 24.2 MP and 24.1MP are just different marketing figures, all these sensors are exactly 6000 x 4000 pixels or 24.0 megapixels in raw output.
Then again, if this is a new sensor, it may provide some sort of benefit for video. Maybe higher bandwidth to the DIGIC 8??Iago said:EOS 750D is 24.2 and the 80D is 24.2 They are different sensors with different DR results. SL2 and 80D same DR results. So I beleive the this new 24.1 and 24.2 from the 80D are different.jolyonralph said:Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
The 24.2 MP and 24.1MP are just different marketing figures, all these sensors are exactly 6000 x 4000 pixels or 24.0 megapixels in raw output.
Iago said:EOS 750D is 24.2 and the 80D is 24.2 They are different sensors with different DR results. SL2 and 80D same DR results. So I beleive the this new 24.1 and 24.2 from the 80D are different.jolyonralph said:Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
The 24.2 MP and 24.1MP are just different marketing figures, all these sensors are exactly 6000 x 4000 pixels or 24.0 megapixels in raw output.
rrcphoto said:thinking about this camera, it really sounds like canon decided to make the choice camera for vlogging.
external mic, don't care about headphone jack, minimal controls and a front facing screen that you can still attach a mic on the hotshoe
if this camera fits in with the sub-$799 pricing, Canon in one shot probably put themselves back squarely into the vlogging conversation. DPAF, Canon colors, fully articulating screen and 4K? there's nothing missing from that for even the fastidious of vloggers. the mic jack could have been placed better, but that's a minor complaint really.
vloggers have been moving back to 1080p Canon cameras just for the color and DPAF, this should worry the panasonics of the world that their low end vlogging capable cameras like the GX85 are no longer safe.
this all goes out the door if it's MJPEG, or priced alot higher. or has a horrendous 4k crop.
But for now it's looking like a pretty good camera for that segment of the market that Canon for the most part has ignored.
jolyonralph said:Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
The 24.2 MP and 24.1MP are just different marketing figures, all these sensors are exactly 6000 x 4000 pixels or 24.0 megapixels in raw output.
Adelino said:Can somewhere address what all this means?
"Dual pixel CMOS AF with greatly improved performance
AF area is enlarged by about 38% with corresponding lens (100% vertical × 88% wide in live view image display range)
The selectable AF point is a corresponding lens with a maximum of 143 points (99 points for non-compatible lenses)."
How great of an improvement can we expect and why do some lenses have more auto focus points?
Sharlin said:Guys, seriously. Stop overthinking.
The M50 sensor is an evolutionary architecture upgrade compared to the 80D&co. We know this without counting pixels. After all, 88% of the photosites are dual pixels compared to just 66% or so in the previous generation. It also supports 4K, full e-shutter, etc, all of which most likely require some changes to sensor architecture. Any of those changes could lead to a few tens of thousands fewer masked pixels for whatever reason. It might even have a brand new fab process.
rrcphoto said:Sharlin said:Guys, seriously. Stop overthinking.
you're over thinking
all they probably did is improve the periphery DPAF points on the same sensor tech which explains the wider AF coverage.
jolyonralph said:Iago said:80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor, this is 24.1 a different sensor. and maybe new. The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.
The 24.2 MP and 24.1MP are just different marketing figures, all these sensors are exactly 6000 x 4000 pixels or 24.0 megapixels in raw output.
rrcphoto said:luka28 said:these are great specs!
can't wait for M5 mark II that camera is going to be a beast!!
now all we need is lenses...
I'm not sure what lenses I need. I'm perfectly happy with what i have. Maybe a more upscale 15-45/4. but really? the lenses are great. I don't do primes, and I would assume there'a lot of people like me.
Also what is really missing with this camera is a CINI lens more than anything.
as far as the camera, it's certainly looking like great things for a M5 Mark II and even the M6 Mark II.