Really? Then why does an EF mount have 8 pins while an EF-M mount has 9 pins?All RF is, is EF plus some additional pins. EF-M is literally EF but a different physical mount. They could just keep everything the same and add the RF pins for newer lenses that have a control ring while keeping the same physical EF-M mount.
I agree. My point was to ask for a newly designed RF40mm pancake as the current adapted EF solution isn't that small/light/cheap which is what a pancake should be.I don't think they should just make an adapted version, but rather, take the existing 50 and 16mm housing for RF and shave it down. They could pretty easily lose a half an inch off the length of the 50 with just a skinny control ring on the front and a slight barrel length shave. Both the RF 50 and 16 (I have both) are 1.75 inches long. The EF 40 (which I also have) is 1.125 inches long. I'd be totally happy if they got a RF 40 down to 1.25-1.5 inches long. Make it f/2 while they're at it. They can make the 50 f/1.8, no reason the 40 couldn't be f/2 in a slightly shorter package.
OMG that slayed me, rotflReally? Then why does an EF mount have 8 pins while an EF-M mount has 9 pins?
Maybe you only had one side of the headpiece of the staff, so the old mystic couldn’t tell you to take back one pin to honor the Buddhist goddess who’s mount this is.
I had M6 MK2, and I don't like the optional EVF. I bought it becaue I find a really good 2nd price. the price is so low that it is basically free upgrade for me. But other than the EVF, it is a very good camera. Very quick and very good ergonomics. I like this even more than my Sony A7RIVI don't like this news.
Because I cannot imagine if and what consequences this means to the EOS M system.
I am no M owner. But if I was to get one body It would have been the M6 II. Because I like the idea of the optional EVF.
Edit: In Germany almost every shop has it on stock.
The 9th pin is reserved for future use. The other pins map to EF pins. If you have an EF to EF-M adapter, it's not difficult to see the mapping from EF to EF-M pins. It's literally a straight through.Really? Then why does an EF mount have 8 pins while an EF-M mount has 9 pins?
Maybe you only had one side of the headpiece of the staff, so the old mystic couldn’t tell you to take back one pin to honor the Buddhist goddess who’s mount this is.
Ah... No. With the RF to EF adapter it's a little longer than the RF 50 STM.I agree. My point was to ask for a newly designed RF40mm pancake as the current adapted EF solution isn't that small/light/cheap which is what a pancake should be.
I think that - if any - this will be the actual nail in the coffin of M.The M series uses PowerShot menus/software after all.
Correct. But comparing the EF50mm and the EF40mm, the EF40mm is about half the length. My thought is that a RF40mm pancake should be about half the length of the RF50mm. That would be great!Ah... No. With the RF to EF adapter it's a little longer than the RF 50 STM.
The number of units is crucial. The highest return per unit is probably the RF 1200 but the number of units will be minimal.This is the right move, and I'm saying this as an M6 Mark II owner.
Trying to support RF, EF, EF-S and EF-M makes no sense from a business or marketing standpoint. The entry and mid-level camera market is rapidly evaporating as phones get better at video and editing. Coupled with supply shortages it makes sense for Canon to focus on the products with the highest return per unit.
For me the R7 just needs to be a 32mp sensor with bird eye AF and R6 ergonomics and I can finally fully transition to RF for all my digital workflow.
M5 mkII please.
Oh yeah 54mm instead of 47mm , wow that's 3.5mm bigger radially so the camera will potentially be slightly larger . Oh dear !If they don't follow up with an M7 announcement that'll solidify my decision to change to Fuji. I don't want a bulky FF mount on an APS-C camera.
I knew exactly what it was.... I own currently 2 R3 bodies, 2 R5 bodies and a double set of all of the currently Canon RF lenses that matter. Thats is my personal stash. The company that I own and run has far more than that. The M-format is a waste.Sounds like a disappointed user expecting more from a consumer system to become a pro system.
Maybe in your gear setup, maybe in your country.
Looking at Japan an Asian sales numbers other people and in other countries opinions might differ.
This has yet to be proven. I hope with you that this will come true, but for what price?
Comparable price of the EOS M6 MkII?
And when it comes to size, I see almost NO - I repeat NO - RF lens coming close to EF-M lenses.
And I see the RF 16 mm here as well!
So what are you looking for?
To you, maybe. For others, it's a useful small line-up that can supplement the RF line. I have both, for different purposes.I knew exactly what it was.... I own currently 2 R3 bodies, 2 R5 bodies and a double set of all of the currently Canon RF lenses that matter. Thats is my personal stash. The company that I own and run has far more than that. The M-format is a waste.
The data suggests otherwise. YouTube and Instagram have created a huge new market for small mirrorless cameras such as M series, as has streaming on platforms like Twitch. Sony created their Vlogger range for this very reason. Just because photography is declining doesn't mean the market is disapearing. People are not generally buying a $4k body for vlogging or streaming, they're buying small mirrorless systems.The entry and mid-level camera market is rapidly evaporating as phones get better at video and editing.
This should be good for another dozen pages of forum battles.
Your staff is too short. You’re digging in the wrong place.The 9th pin is reserved for future use. The other pins map to EF pins. If you have an EF to EF-M adapter, it's not difficult to see the mapping from EF to EF-M pins. It's literally a straight through.