February & March are Announcement Months for Canon [CR2]

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<p><strong>What can we expect in early 2013?

</strong>I’m told we’ll be seeing two seperate announcements in back to back months in 2013. We’ll see announcements in February and March, one of the announcements will be a “major” event. Sometimes the word “major” is used incorrectly.</p>
<p><strong>EOS-M

</strong>Apparently, one of the announcements will be to introduce a second EOS-M body. The body will be slightly bigger, and have a viewfinder. They will also introduce at least two new lenses with the body. I’d expect a telephoto zoom and a fast prime.</p>
<p><strong>EOS 7D Mark II

</strong>One of these announcement dates will also be for the EOS 7D replacement. No word on specs, but it’s suggested the camera/segment will get a new naming scheme.</p>
<p><strong>Big Megapixel

</strong>The 40+ mp camera gets another mention and we should expect an announcement in Q1 of 2013. The camera will be physically bigger than the 5D Mark III, but will be smaller than the EOS-1D X. It’s noted that the sensor is currently in EOS-1D X styled bodies.</p>
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Re: February & March are Announcement Months for Canon [CR2]

I'll definitely have my eye on the EOS M body. If it has an OVF and improved AF speed, I could see this being my back up body to my 5DIII. I know this technology will get there, just not sure if it gets there this round or not. Could be an excellent alternative to getting a new P&S, though considerably more expensive I'm sure.

-Brian
 
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RLPhoto said:
A pro aimed EOS M would be nice.

A 7D2 is way overdue.

And the BIG MP camera will be here soon.

Let's see some innovation canon.

The 7D2 is way over due only because of it's iso noise issue. It has more than enough MP and features.
If Canon can nail their iso noise issue and bring their shadow noise up to Nikon/Sony standards then it'll have been worth the wait. I just hope it's not another nominal upgrade.

I'm not sure if a big MP camera will shift boxes as much as the current 5DIII and 1DX are. It'll be nice to try one, but 46mp? Really? Like who really NEEDs this IQ?
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
The 7D2 is way over due only because of it's iso noise issue. It has more than enough MP and features.

No, it needs f/8 autofocus, more pixels for more "reach" when focal length limited, flexible video cropping options, and preferably a set of high-speed video modes like pretty much all their compacts have now.
 
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If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?

A big pixel count sensor would add great flexibility if properly implemented. I've suggested before several modes:

- Standard mode would be with something like 14MP of full-color pixels each derived from 4 of the small pixels - medium speed. This is the approach used in the C100.
- High-res mode (all pixels - slow).
- 2x-crop mode - again something like 14MP this time of standard Bayer pixels from the center of the frame (fast).
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Apparently, one of the announcements will be to introduce a second EOS-M body. The body will be slightly bigger, and have a viewfinder.

Before these mirrorless cameras will become even remotely interesting to me, they need three things:

  • AF as fast as the Rebel series cameras, including AI servo
  • A viewfinder that's got under 25ms of latency
  • Battery life for at least 1,500 shots and an hour of non-stop viewfinder use.

If they're going to release a second version of the M, they need a standard zoom lens that retracts inside the body when not in use.
 
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Stuart said:
Looking forward to some big mature changes, stabilising the EOS-M range. big pixel and a 7D refresh. Could a EOS-M with a viewfinder and a 7D renaming scheme be one and the same thing?

No way, no how, could the replacement 7D be a mirrorless camera. That would kill it for 95% of the users.
 
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I still don't like the idea of a bigger camera, even if it is smaller than the 1DX.

I hope it is not because of an integrated grip.

A studio camera does not need an integrated grip. An architecture camera does not need an integrated grip. A landscape camera does not need an integrated grip. If you want a grip for those purposes, attach an optional one. :P
 
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Lee Jay said:
If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?
I would not worry about that.

Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."
 
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Ricku said:
Lee Jay said:
If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?
I would not worry about that.

Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."

I don't really need more DR either (well, it's very rare that I do), but I would like cleaner images in the DR I currently have. Going all the way to the noise floor doesn't yield the cleanest images, while pushing the noise floor down would achieve much cleaner images in the area from the current noise floor up.
 
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Re: February & March are Announcement Months for Canon [CR2]

Lee Jay said:
Ricku said:
Lee Jay said:
If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?
I would not worry about that.

Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."

I don't really need more DR either (well, it's very rare that I do), but I would like cleaner images in the DR I currently have. Going all the way to the noise floor doesn't yield the cleanest images, while pushing the noise floor down would achieve much cleaner images in the area from the current noise floor up.
But that kinda means that you do want more DR. Getting cleaner results when pushing shadows = more DR. :) And I'm guessing you want Canon to get rid of their trademarked banding too.

Nothing odd about that. It has been on my wishlist for 5 years now.
 
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Re: February & March are Announcement Months for Canon [CR2]

Ricku said:
Lee Jay said:
Ricku said:
Lee Jay said:
If Canon really can come up with a pixel design and readout electronics that dramatically reduces read noise, won't that leave the new 5DIII owners out in the cold? Could the 5DIII get a big price drop and a replacement (sensor only) be released soon? Could Canon offer a sensor-only upgrade for them?
I would not worry about that.

Haven't you heard? Most people who bought the 5D III claim that "they don't need more DR", and that "more DR is only for people who can't expose correctly."

I don't really need more DR either (well, it's very rare that I do), but I would like cleaner images in the DR I currently have. Going all the way to the noise floor doesn't yield the cleanest images, while pushing the noise floor down would achieve much cleaner images in the area from the current noise floor up.
But that kinda means that you do want more DR. Getting cleaner results when pushing shadows = more DR. :) And I'm guessing you want Canon to get rid of their trademarked banding too.

Nothing odd about that. It has been on my wishlist for 5 years now.

Yes, to get those cleaner images, I'd get more low-ISO DR for free. But there's really only one time I've wanted more base-ISO DR and in that particular case, I needed about 20 more stops, not a measly 2 stops more.
 
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