Yeah I second that, really amazing work
Thank you thank you brother, appreciate it... much love
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Yeah I second that, really amazing work
So when I go shoot with my 5d in the same conditions as I do with the R5 I used or my 1d and shoot a few thousand out in the heat and lean on it because that’s part of the way it goes with high speed Motorsport photography I must be doing it wrong and it must not be the camera that shoots 12 FPS and pretty much has no buffer and is touted as being your one stop shop. People shoot 5ds and a7s at the events I also work at. You all need to take a step back and check your tribalism. Your god failed you life will go on .People are saying it is normal to shoot several thousand images in a couple hours, but what is the comparison? A giant DSLR with smaller MP sensor that will heat less with each burst and cool more easily? Even in short bursts of dozens to hundreds of images, a camera is running full-out for a few minutes writing the buffers and to two cards- this is near max processing just like HQ video, especially with tracking and IBIS running. This will heat the camera each burst, and if the body is small and compact, heat dissipation to the outside will not be as effective as a large body. Over time, and with the sun, the camera is going to get really hot inside. The R5 is a tiny MILC body. The comparisons to a 1DX3 is senseless. The 1DX series is huge compared to this camera. People are calling this heat issue a problem because they expect a dedicated video camera or dedicated sports camera. If I start to hear reports or have my own experience with more normal forms of stills shooting, I will become concerned, but so far all reports of 'problems' come from people pushing the camera hard as a specialty sports or video camera when it is a hybrid.
The major mistake I think Canon made is giving this camera capabilities of their higher end video cameras and sports cameras in a tiny body that cannot do those duties indefinitely in all environments. They were not clear enough about this being a 5D5 stills camera replacement in a mirrorless body. No one expects the 5D4 to do anything but basic video and pretty good stills reliably, and the same should be true of what is essentially a mirrorless 5D5. Maybe if they didn't choose such a tiny body, the thermal situation would be better, but then vloggers and wedding photographers would be crying about it.
Without being spoon fed the obvious, many customers are just not that educated about technology and have no idea what to expect or how to pick a camera properly- this is why they turn to all the dumb youtube reviewers, most of whom unfortunately make their living on being talking heads who hype everything.
The real failing of the R5 release is not one of engineering, but of marketing. It may have been smarter of Canon to not offer the high fps or 4kHQ or 8k, but if they did, you know how loud people would be crying about 'the cripple hammer'. I would hate to work in consumer electronics right now. People who don't have a clue how their gadgets work are just the most demanding, pissy, egotistical lot. The more uninformed they are, the louder they seem to be, parroting the opinions of anyone who they think sounds informed. They always want more for less, and just once I wish any of them had the brains to be on the engineering side and see just how hard it is, just how amazing the R5 actually is in this tiny body.
I'll be right here complaining with everyone if this camera fails me for reasonable use (excellent stills in all environments plus light duty high quality video). I'll compare it to the 5D4, the market segment it belongs. So far in my reasonable torture test in direct sunlight the camera meets and exceeds what Canon said it could do, and meets my needs. People trying to use it as all time HQ video camera, cinema camera or sports camera, and those deliberately just 'leaning on the shutter' etc. are perhaps not considering the purpose it was designed to and are expecting hybrid to perform as a specialist. Just silly.
If firmware improvement or a manufacturing fix can make things better, great. Otherwise I expect that if the camera performs to reasonable limits it will serve many of us well. Time will tell.
I'm in a very similar boat to you. My initial thought was that I could buy the R5 and sell my A7S2/A7III/Sony lenses and be back to all Canon. I shot Canon video until 2015 and I couldn't ignore how much better Sony video was and moved over. I preordered the R5 but ended up cancelling it because the A7S3 just made more sense for me since I shoot like 90% video. But I love shooting Canon stills, I just never liked shooting photos on Sony mirrorless for some reason. Also love my Canon glass so it looks like I'm going to continue using both systems for the forseeable future.
I'm facing an issue with both my R5. I tried recording 4K 120fps onto my Wise 256GB card (R:1700mbps , W: 1550mbps) but less than 20 secs it keeps showing "movie recording stopped. Slow card write speed". I don't get it... I thought the Wise 256GB is fast enough? Anyone encounter the same problem?
It was my friends camera, we used the new lp batts. I had just got done shooting a burst and looked at the photos that were captured and the red thermometer was flashing and I proceeded to shoot more then the camera stopped. It took somewhere between 10-15 min to start working again. After this tho I quit using itAnother quick clarification... did both bodies overheat, or just yours? Also, did you get the battery overheat warning (flame) or the thermal overheat warning? If battery, were you using the new battery or one from your 90D?
Read what poster stevensteven said his dilema is. People with money and can invest in expensive FF camera/glass can make a choice to go with the ecosystem they feel best fit their needs.
With the release of the A7siii and soon A7iv or current A7riv. Soon with flip screen and better menu.
What reason for a person with no EF or RF glasses to go with Canon? Or stay with Canon, when they don't have any RF glass yet?
Many people are cancelling their R5/R6 pre-order (on Youtube) because the A7siii offer better video specs. And when they do migrate to the Sony system, the soon a7iv (hybrid) and current a7riv (photo) will do similar job of the R5 and 5Div.
The GAS bois are willing to fork out $1000 more to get the A7siii over the R6, due to the better video specs, and they'll keep that camera and ecosystem. Canon/Pana/BMP4k/6k won't get them back. Now you might think they are a minority and most pro aren't on social media, but the market is shrinking, and these are the people willing to spend big on hobbies and wannabe filmmakers start up package.
If you shoot in a niche where camera A does not perform, and a camera B does, then by all means, use camera B. Is there any camera that works in all scenarios? I look at all features before deciding for myself. I won’t be driving a mustang on a formula 1 track. Many choices are available.So when I go shoot with my 5d in the same conditions as I do with the R5 I used or my 1d and shoot a few thousand out in the heat and lean on it because that’s part of the way it goes with high speed Motorsport photography I must be doing it wrong and it must not be the camera that shoots 12 FPS and pretty much has no buffer and is touted as being your one stop shop. People shoot 5ds and a7s at the events I also work at. You all need to take a step back and check your tribalism. Your god failed you life will go on .
Check out my reply to the other gear thread. 8k raw needs cards capable of 325MBps. If you card doesn’t tell you the sustained rate then it is likely to be telling you the max or burst rate. Canon has a list of compatible cards. 120fps is 225 to 235MBps.I'm facing an issue with both my R5. I tried recording 4K 120fps onto my Wise 256GB card (R:1700mbps , W: 1550mbps) but less than 20 secs it keeps showing "movie recording stopped. Slow card write speed". I don't get it... I thought the Wise 256GB is fast enough? Anyone encounter the same problem?
Yes, well said. This is the best post on this site. I'm not a pro, but love stills photography and love reading what pros have to say about all things Canon and photography. I have preordered the R5 and will be thrilled to carry on with what I have accomplished and learned so far with the 7D, 6D, 5DS-R, and R.Well said. They will never stop though. People are caught up in emotion and hype. The average person seems incapable of their own nuanced and logical thought process, which is why they give so much time to paid talking heads on youtube. I'm guessing this bashing and trying to change the R5 probably gives them a place to exert force and control in an out of control world these days.
It is pretty clear that the camera performs very well for what it was designed for. I've done my own overheat test and exceeded the record times Canon specified in direct sun and hot ambient air. It will more than cover my needs, and its design point: stills with limited very high quality video, and competent 4k30 and 1080 that you can use to your hearts desire.
I notice that most of the people with the largest issues don't seem to have equipment that can do this today, and their opinions are coming from 100% others reports, not experience. They hate what the cutting edge of hybrids is capable of and blame Canon that their innovation is not enough. They won't just go buy the Sony dedicated video camera either, even though somehow that camera (basically useless for stills) overheats in not much more time and lacks the resolution of the Canon.
Hybrid tools always compromise, which is why there are so many great purpose built tools on the market. We are living at a time when there is unbelievable tool sets for creativity- so many great offerings from so many brands. For anyone who is unhappy with these amazing cameras, I don't think it is the cameras that are broken... maybe it is time to look at who is behind the camera. Find a tool that will work for you and move on.
EDIT: the reports of thermal shutdown after taking fast bursts over and over may mean it is not as good at coolng as a 1DX3, meant for sports and in a giant body, but it also has a high MP sensor and must read out more data per shot. If you just lean on the shutter and go full rate, that buffer is going to run for a long, long time, which is the same as running high frame rate video, especially dual card writing. So no, I am not surprised. Does that make the camera unreliable? Not to me for my uses, I would never shoot thousands of shots in just a couple hours in high rate bursts. It is fair to say it might be unreliable as a dedicated sports camera, just like it is not a dedicated video camera. I think the real problem here is, Canon gave this too much power from the video and sports capable cameras, and now everyone thinks it should do all features as perfectly as purpose built tools for those jobs.
I'd love to see Canon improve things if they can for the R5/6, but I maintain that as the mirrorless 5DV with fast bursts and video supported but not dedicated, this is a great camera for many. I also appreciate all the normal customer reports and non hyped reviews, good or bad experiences, so we can all get the info we need to decide if the camera is for our needs. (Well, I already own it, but for everyone else sake)
Check out my reply to the other gear thread. 8k raw needs cards capable of 325MBps. If you card doesn’t tell you the sustained rate then it is likely to be telling you the max or burst rate. Canon has a list of compatible cards. 120fps is 225 to 235MBps.
Oh.. yes strange if one worked ok. See if you can contact the manufacturer for sustained write speeds which may confirm a faulty cardI tried using the same card (Wise) in the shop to test their R5 8K raw and got no issue.
I have issue using my both R5 shooting 8K Raw and 4K 120FPS with Clog. 4K120fps without Clog is fine... This is really weird...
I have 2 wise cards and both giving me the same problem... And tried on both my R5 same issue too :/ SighOh.. yes strange if one worked ok. See if you can contact the manufacturer for sustained write speeds which may confirm a faulty card
Also, I found this online: https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/01/27/wise-cfexpress-card-review/Oh.. yes strange if one worked ok. See if you can contact the manufacturer for sustained write speeds which may confirm a faulty card
that would not be good for company tho. it literally kill all their under 10000$ cinema cameraIf all current available recording modes would then record unlimited? Everybody! It would be the best video camera under 10.000$ I guess.
What are you on about? All I am saying is that shooting 2500 frames in 2 hours has never been an issue. You can do that even with 5DsR. It doesn‘t require 12FPS or 1200mbit/s write to card speed.You're misrepresenting what I'm saying. I did not claim writing short bursts into the buffer is an issue. Nor did I say that shooting 2500 frames in 2 hours is abnormal. You're making assumptions that I myself am not willing to make.
better in quality, but not in usability cause its overheat.The boys at DPR claim the R6 is better at 4k than the R5
For all those reasons I don't think a die shrink is in the immediate future or a solution. I would love to see the a Lens Rentals tear down though. Is there any kind of heat sink on the DIGIC X? Is there room for one to pipe heat to the body? People complaining that the camera is overheated yet the body feels cool indicates a big thermal management issue. Hopefully one they can solve.
I'm facing an issue with both my R5. I tried recording 4K 120fps onto my Wise 256GB card (R:1700mbps , W: 1550mbps) but less than 20 secs it keeps showing "movie recording stopped. Slow card write speed". I don't get it... I thought the Wise 256GB is fast enough? Anyone encounter the same problem?
For real?
This is the PR disaster I mentioned in the other thread