Here are the full Canon EOS R specifications
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For the record, I take issue with your assertion that adapters aren't an issue
Travel photography and juggling a large bag containing a 5D and M5 and mixture of EF and EF-M lenses is hard work in my experience.
With a homogenous setup you just take one lens off, take the cap off the upcoming lens, put it onto the offgoing lens, and fit the upcoming lens. Easy.
But with the adapter you have caps all over the place - whenever moving from EF-M to EF or vice versa, you have to bring in extra caps or retire some. It sounds simple but trying to move an adapter from one lens to the next as well as moving caps in and out is stressful, frustrating and time consuming and the extra time runs the risk of introducing more dust into the equation.
Something I personally never want to do again.
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If I were to hazard a guess:
1) image sensor
2) processor
3) chassis
4) EVF
5) circuit card assembly (less processor)
6) other printed circuits (flex cables, daughter boards)
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Here's how that would work in the real world.....
Canon decides to deliberately make third party lenses not work with their bodies....
Every store clerk says "Don't buy Canon, they don't work with anyone elses lenses"....
Canon sales plummet......
No way would they do that.....
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Let me know how a more mature system makes your hands feel at the end of a day of shooting with big f/2.8 zooms and f/1.4 primes.
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Yes, absolutely, agreed.
What I was hoping for was a nice comfortable 5D4 with an EVF, Eye Focus and IBIS.
To which I would hang off my heavy unstabilized 24-70 , heavy 70-200 f/2.8 and my unstabilized Sigma Art primes.
Instead, a somewhat uglier, smaller camera with no IBIS nor eye focus.
Meanwhile, whilst Sony have the IBIS and Eye Focus toys they don't have the body I'm looking for ... alpha is way too small for my heavy lenses.
Roll on 2019 ...
Deep down, my real concern is that perhaps Canon simply don't have the technical maturity to match Sony when it comes to the technology ... not yet at least ...
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Lost interest on this camera 15 pages ago, it's not what I want and needed. I'm sure this new line will be a success in the future.
Unless there's a big surprise on the actual launch, but meh for now, I just want the new M5 MkII.
Unless there's a big surprise on the actual launch, but meh for now, I just want the new M5 MkII.
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If they reuse 6DII mechanical shutter (why wouldn't they?), it's 1/180 s.
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My point was to question whether there is a financial incentive for Canon to withhold IBIS in order to encourage the sales of their IS lenses over those 3rd parties such a Sigma who don't have IS on many of their Art lenses.
Perhaps Canon are doing this merely due to technical immaturity, or perhaps for commercial reasons. Who knows ?
Canon seem to be doing just fine financially - despite 3rd party lenses having far worse Auto Focus hit rates ...
Customers are buying their cameras and lenses in droves ... but might well make less money if they supplied IBIS so that those same customers could get stabilized pictures whilst avoiding Canon's eye-watering IS lens prices !
Not a question of compatibility ... more facility.
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Here’s a handful of unsoliceted thoughts. Feel free to skip right past all this if you’re not interested in some specific personal opinion:
I find the complaints on this camera fascinating. It takes a rather inefficient mindset to incessantly complain about a product that isn’t designed how you want it to be. I’m curious what these people are realistically hoping for. Out of all the equipment that’s out there, I’m sure something exists that’s within your budget that will allow you do produce images/video that not only looks good, but you can show off in whatever platform you deal with, regardless if you’re making money off of it.
Now, if your business is in its infancy and you’re not even making enough to sustain yourself consistently without being supported by other means, then you obviously need to focus on using equipment within your budget. It’s futile to demand brand new professional level gear with specs usually found in higher end equipment be reduced in price to suit your small budget. If you can’t produce a reasonably good product that’s sellable within that budget, then it’s time to find new work.
I suppose I was taught to first focus on what I actually need, and then figure out what equipment would allow me to attain the result based on those needs. As an example, and in my particular case it looks something like this:
I’m a destination wedding photographer with extremely steady hands. I’m in good shape and the weight of equipment doesn’t bother me, even hauling long distances over a long period of time. My Holdfast straps are extremely reliable for that. I don’t shoot thousands of photos per job, as I’m pretty sharp about taking a photo when I see something that catches my eye, as opposed to taking dozens in a row in hopes I got something usable. I rarely use a swift burst mode. I usually end up with a couple to few hundred at the very most after a 10-12hr gig. I shoot mostly available light, with using lighting gear when absolutely necessary. My gear needs to be reliable, weather resistant, my bodies have good dynamic range, and my focus needs to be relatively swift and accurate, etc.
Now, when considering these things, does this new camera check all those boxes? I’m not sure, as there are no reviews or image samples. The spec sheet alone tells me mostly yes, but I’m wise enough to save any decision until I get all the facts. As it sits now, I can at least take an educated guess and say this would probably compliment my current gear setup, or perhaps allow me to retire some aging equipment to replace. If it doesn’t, I’ll patiently wait for something that will be suitable, or if I need it sooner than later, I’ll just pick up a piece of gear that’s out there I know will be suitable.
Cheers!
I find the complaints on this camera fascinating. It takes a rather inefficient mindset to incessantly complain about a product that isn’t designed how you want it to be. I’m curious what these people are realistically hoping for. Out of all the equipment that’s out there, I’m sure something exists that’s within your budget that will allow you do produce images/video that not only looks good, but you can show off in whatever platform you deal with, regardless if you’re making money off of it.
Now, if your business is in its infancy and you’re not even making enough to sustain yourself consistently without being supported by other means, then you obviously need to focus on using equipment within your budget. It’s futile to demand brand new professional level gear with specs usually found in higher end equipment be reduced in price to suit your small budget. If you can’t produce a reasonably good product that’s sellable within that budget, then it’s time to find new work.
I suppose I was taught to first focus on what I actually need, and then figure out what equipment would allow me to attain the result based on those needs. As an example, and in my particular case it looks something like this:
I’m a destination wedding photographer with extremely steady hands. I’m in good shape and the weight of equipment doesn’t bother me, even hauling long distances over a long period of time. My Holdfast straps are extremely reliable for that. I don’t shoot thousands of photos per job, as I’m pretty sharp about taking a photo when I see something that catches my eye, as opposed to taking dozens in a row in hopes I got something usable. I rarely use a swift burst mode. I usually end up with a couple to few hundred at the very most after a 10-12hr gig. I shoot mostly available light, with using lighting gear when absolutely necessary. My gear needs to be reliable, weather resistant, my bodies have good dynamic range, and my focus needs to be relatively swift and accurate, etc.
Now, when considering these things, does this new camera check all those boxes? I’m not sure, as there are no reviews or image samples. The spec sheet alone tells me mostly yes, but I’m wise enough to save any decision until I get all the facts. As it sits now, I can at least take an educated guess and say this would probably compliment my current gear setup, or perhaps allow me to retire some aging equipment to replace. If it doesn’t, I’ll patiently wait for something that will be suitable, or if I need it sooner than later, I’ll just pick up a piece of gear that’s out there I know will be suitable.
Cheers!
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Camera with the ergo of a 5D, body size of an iPhone, sensor of a PhaseOne IQ4, processor of national security data mining operation, narrow lens mount which natively takes EF lenses, video capabilities of a Red Helium, and built-in gigLTE for near-real-time AI-based autofocus.
Oh and a flip out screen.
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I think the most important thing about this announcement is that it is a strategic move by Canon to forestall switchers and signal a serious commitment to mirrorless bodies.
The "announced" R lenses indicate serious investment and the alleged 28-70 f2 puts a marker down to signal to all the fast glass enthusiasts that they are being very serious about the mount.
As for the low spec body. We have no real idea what final form it may take but a low end ML body would not be an error as it represents something that could be bargain priced to entice newbies and would be switchers. Enthusiasts longing for the higher end bodies may need to long a little while more but would be possibly kept from switching. In addition it allows the teething of a new product to be worked out on a more forgiving audience than the loud mouths on various fora and SM.
The "announced" R lenses indicate serious investment and the alleged 28-70 f2 puts a marker down to signal to all the fast glass enthusiasts that they are being very serious about the mount.
As for the low spec body. We have no real idea what final form it may take but a low end ML body would not be an error as it represents something that could be bargain priced to entice newbies and would be switchers. Enthusiasts longing for the higher end bodies may need to long a little while more but would be possibly kept from switching. In addition it allows the teething of a new product to be worked out on a more forgiving audience than the loud mouths on various fora and SM.
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