More Detailed Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II

[BeenThere]

Anyone else think that a Thursday announcement date would be strange especially considering it's right before a huge American holiday weekend? I'm starting to wonder if that rumor was wrong. At least I don't have to wait long to find out.

Decided to add joy stick and move to a 2018 release date.

 

[Sporgon]

unicorns usualy fart with rainbows. My 12 y.o. knows this for a fact.
I will pass on the microwave but would gladly take AF joystick instead, just for, you know, the quick management of those excellent 45 cross point AF points included. That would get me buy this camera in an instant. actually, two of these, thanks. I realise that it is an unreasonable expectation though as this is a PRO feature and cannot be offered with an Entry Level FF camera. And no, increased cost argument does not hold the water. we are talking few dollars if not cents here.

Yet another camera that doesn't include a microwave oven and a built in unicorn that farts colored candy sprinkles. Obviously Canon cares nothing for the serious camera user. ;D

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally. Maybe I'm used to the dial/wheel but I find it faster and less infuriating than the d pad or joystick. I also don't tend to drastically move from one corner point to another in quick succession. That's just my style of shooting though (slow). YMMV

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I have found exactly the same thing. For me at any rate the joystick doesn't work well diagonally. Because of this I have my 5Ds set to using the rear command wheel to move the focus point in a loop, and aperture or EC is achieved by pressing top rear left button whilst using front command wheel, like a rebel in fact.

However Canon don't give us this option on the 6D, and it's a pretty sh**** wheel anyway. I'm guessing that the 6DII won't have the option either.

 

[Loswr]

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally.

+1

I have found exactly the same thing. For me at any rate the joystick doesn't work well diagonally. Because of this I have my 5Ds set to using the rear command wheel to move the focus point in a loop, and aperture or EC is achieved by pressing top rear left button whilst using front command wheel, like a rebel in fact.

I found that to be true with my 7D (the 'over-and-down/up' two-step became natural), but the joystick on the 1D X handles diagonal movement just fine.

 

[SecureGSM]

I would imaging that this 'over-and-down/up' two-step AF point selection technique with AF joystick is way more comfortable than: press AF- point selection button, scroll dial/wheel through 45 AF points, half press shutter button to get out of AF point selection mode instead...

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally.

+1

I have found exactly the same thing. For me at any rate the joystick doesn't work well diagonally. Because of this I have my 5Ds set to using the rear command wheel to move the focus point in a loop, and aperture or EC is achieved by pressing top rear left button whilst using front command wheel, like a rebel in fact.

I found that to be true with my 7D (the 'over-and-down/up' two-step became natural), but the joystick on the 1D X handles diagonal movement just fine.

 

[Zv]

I would imaging that this 'over-and-down/up' two-step AF point selection technique with AF joystick is way more comfortable than: press AF- point selection button, scroll dial/wheel through 45 AF points, half press shutter button to get out of AF point selection mode instead...

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally.

+1

I have found exactly the same thing. For me at any rate the joystick doesn't work well diagonally. Because of this I have my 5Ds set to using the rear command wheel to move the focus point in a loop, and aperture or EC is achieved by pressing top rear left button whilst using front command wheel, like a rebel in fact.

I found that to be true with my 7D (the 'over-and-down/up' two-step became natural), but the joystick on the 1D X handles diagonal movement just fine.

Like most things in life you get used to it and the process doesn't seem quite as complex when you don't have to think about it.

Think of all the processes and decisions involved in starting your car and reversing out the driveway. I bet you don't even think about it your brain is on auto pilot but there's a lot going on and if you list it all it sounds incredibly complicated.

Yes, using a 1DX joystick is beautifully ergonomic and a breeze to use but once you get used to a camera it's second nature. And since I've (and many many others) have been shooting with a 6D, that doesn't have a joystick, for several years now, if and when we upgrade to the MkII it will feel right at home. The adjustment period will be instantaneous. Call me optimistic!

 

[Sporgon]

I would imaging that this 'over-and-down/up' two-step AF point selection technique with AF joystick is way more comfortable than: press AF- point selection button, scroll dial/wheel through 45 AF points, half press shutter button to get out of AF point selection mode instead...

Just my opinion based on 7D and 5DII joystick but I found it a bit finicky moving points diagonally.

+1

I have found exactly the same thing. For me at any rate the joystick doesn't work well diagonally. Because of this I have my 5Ds set to using the rear command wheel to move the focus point in a loop, and aperture or EC is achieved by pressing top rear left button whilst using front command wheel, like a rebel in fact.

I found that to be true with my 7D (the 'over-and-down/up' two-step became natural), but the joystick on the 1D X handles diagonal movement just fine.

None of that with the 5 series. Just set it up in the custom menu - AF direct to rear command wheel, twirl the wheel and you're away, sending your AF point round and round

 

[Jack Douglas]

Long ago I commented about the 6D "equivalent joystick" being pretty handy for reviewing photos and my only complaint was that if you were not using a pointed small finger or finger nail you'd be hitting more than you wished, at one time. I've been hoping they'd enlarge the wheel and then I'd be happy, and I'm saying this after using the 1DX2 joystick for a few months now and finding it a wee bit awkward at times.

Jack

 

[Deepboy]

I have 6D and i had 5D Mark II, so i used both the joystick from the latter and the "inner-wheel-joystick" on the 6D; and i just used 3 days ago a 5D Mark III for a couple of hours doing backstage shot in a studio where i was assisting a photographer, and well, you'll kill me but i can say FOR ME (personal preference) the one in the 6D is WAY more comfortable than the one on 5D serie, i find that one too sensibile and completely unusable.
But i have to say i never used a camera with more than 9 AF point before the Mark III, and i use it for not so long, so i honetly don't know if you handle AF points selection better with the joystick than the "wheel-joystick"...but we'll se, ad i think i'll be an eraly purchaser of the 6D Mark II.

I also wanted double card slot and sh*t, but i had to be realist, if i want that i should go for a 5D, Canon would not insert the double slot on the next 6D due to price and to market strategy to have different layers of cameras. Fot the FHD vs 4K no problem, i don't have 4k monitor, nor a 4k tv, nor a computer able to handle such resolution and file sizes, so i'm totally fine with a nice FHD if they worked on that removing banding, rolling shutter, etc.

But, just tell me, am i the only one here who does NOT absolutely like the idea of the articulated screen? I find it useless for what i do, it's something that could be damaged because there's extra mechanics and extra electric stuff compared to a fixed screen...i'll buy the Mark II anyway, but honestly is very disappointing for me (again, i'm talking for myself), i found that absolutely unattractive, i have a backup 60D since 3 year and i don't remember a single time i used the screen outside its slot.

Anyway, that just confirm that for Canon this camera is aimed mostly at prosumers, but i'm totally fine, as it's the photographer that gives professionality or not, and not the marketing strategy of the manufacturers. An amateur with a 1Dx Mk II will always remain an amateur, while a professional with a 1300D and a 18-55 kit lens will always get professional results with controlled conditions.

So don't whine on what you shuld have wanted or not just buy the camera that better fits your needs and that you can afford, no matter you call yourself amateur or professional...i read lot of people talking about Sony...well, god bless, buy Sony, why do you need to fight on a forum just to defend one brand or another? I wanted a 5D Mark IV, or better a 1Dx Mk II, but i know my pictures won't be improved, and also i can't afford them anyway. I'll buy my new 6D Mark II and i'll live peacefully

 

[foo]

I have no experience with time lapse so what exactly would be in the menu for this feature; briefly how will it work. I realize that over time periodic shots are taken but would appreciate a little camera specific detail. Would this in any way impact the slow shutter speed capability say for stary sky night shots?

Can't say what the 6D2 will be like, on the 5D4 you set the number of shots up to 3600 and the interval, the shutter speed is based on what you could set in movie mode which appears to leave you with a range of 1/25-1/4000
The camera goes off and takes the images, and assembles the movie. you don't get the individual images saved.

The 5D4 also has an intervalometer mode where you just get the individual images saved to do with as you wish later, however only up to 30 sec exposures. 5D4 also has a bulb mode timer, but you don't seem to be able to combine bulb mode timer with the intervalometer

Probably safe to assume that the 6D2 will lose some of the features of the 5D4

 

[Loswr]

Probably safe to assume that the 6D2 will lose some of the features of the 5D4

 

[chrysoberyl]

But, just tell me, am i the only one here who does NOT absolutely like the idea of the articulated screen? I find it useless for what i do, it's something that could be damaged because there's extra mechanics and extra electric stuff compared to a fixed screen...i'll buy the Mark II anyway, but honestly is very disappointing for me (again, i'm talking for myself), i found that absolutely unattractive, i have a backup 60D since 3 year and i don't remember a single time i used the screen outside its slot.

The articulating screen is important to me. I do close-ups and macro in the wild, and am tired of groveling the mud or fighting the sun.

 

[dlee13]

I keep refreshing the Canon Rumors page hoping to see it's officially announced so I can run into a store and preorder! I managed to sell my 6D yesterday so I'm all ready for the upgrade

 

[Jack Douglas]

@ foo Thanks for that. It sounds useful.

@ dlee13 Mine is selling in about 1/2 hour sold and I'm not the least bit concerned about regretting the cost of the upgrade.

Jack

 

[Salleen]

Let's hear the shutter sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJXTe1of-oQ

 

[Jack Douglas]

A bit more.

http://www.canon.co.uk/cameras/eos-6d-mark-ii/specifications/

Jack

 

[daphins]

There was a review that specifically said that the 6D MKii doesn't produce Dual Pixel RAWs? Surely, the reviewer is wrong? It has DPAF, so why wouldn't it produce RAW's?

 

[Mikehit]

There was a review that specifically said that the 6D MKii doesn't produce Dual Pixel RAWs? Surely, the reviewer is wrong? It has DPAF, so why wouldn't it produce RAW's?

Because it is not designed to?
I am not sure if you misunderstand what 'Dual Pixel Raw' actually is. generates its

 

[daphins]

There was a review that specifically said that the 6D MKii doesn't produce Dual Pixel RAWs? Surely, the reviewer is wrong? It has DPAF, so why wouldn't it produce RAW's?

Because it is not designed to?
I am not sure if you misunderstand what 'Dual Pixel Raw' actually is. generates its

Admittedly, I'm not a camera Techie (I'm upgrading from a 60D). From my understanding, the MKii had DPAutofocus which makes it super-snappy. DPRAW is a RAW file that essentially contains two images so you can make very slight tweaks in focus during post production.

My question is, does the 6D MKii not produce the DPRAW files? I'm looking at the MKIV which apparently does produce DPRAW files...I don't see that listed anywhere in the official Canon Spec's. They both produce JPEG, and RAW (14 bit canon Original). They have mRAW, sRAW, and Large/RAW.

Where is DPRAW? And can the MKii produce it?

 

[Mikehit]

Admittedly, I'm not a camera Techie (I'm upgrading from a 60D). From my understanding, the MKii had DPAutofocus which makes it super-snappy. DPRAW is a RAW file that essentially contains two images so you can make very slight tweaks in focus during post production.

My question is, does the 6D MKii not produce the DPRAW files? I'm looking at the MKIV which apparently does produce DPRAW files...I don't see that listed anywhere in the official Canon Spec's. They both produce JPEG, and RAW (14 bit canon Original). They have mRAW, sRAW, and Large/RAW.

Where is DPRAW? And can the MKii produce it?

You seem to have got the correct understanding.
It all depends on if the 6D2 has the software to record the two sets of data - it is by no means a given. If you think about it, the 5DIV was bot the first camera to have Dual Pixel focussing but was the first one to have DP Raw. I have been distinctly underwhelmed by comments on it so far.

 

[Loswr]

Admittedly, I'm not a camera Techie (I'm upgrading from a 60D). From my understanding, the MKii had DPAutofocus which makes it super-snappy. DPRAW is a RAW file that essentially contains two images so you can make very slight tweaks in focus during post production.

My question is, does the 6D MKii not produce the DPRAW files? I'm looking at the MKIV which apparently does produce DPRAW files...I don't see that listed anywhere in the official Canon Spec's. They both produce JPEG, and RAW (14 bit canon Original). They have mRAW, sRAW, and Large/RAW.

Where is DPRAW? And can the MKii produce it?

You seem to have got the correct understanding.
It all depends on if the 6D2 has the software to record the two sets of data - it is by no means a given. If you think about it, the 5DIV was bot the first camera to have Dual Pixel focussing but was the first one to have DP Raw. I have been distinctly underwhelmed by comments on it so far.

Many Canon ILCs – ranging from the M and Rebel/xxxD lines to the 1D X II – have DPAF. Only one Canon ILC – the 5DIV – has DP RAW capability.