Canon EOS M5 Coming Before Photokina [CR3]

[weixing]

Hi,
G5X look alike??

Have a nice day.

 

[privatebydesign]

Am I the only person who thinks its odd that in a little over 4 years time Canon will have released 5 iterations of the M body and only 7 lenses, six of which are quite slow?

They are likely throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks before they really jump in with both feet on lens development. They obviously don't see any reason to rush with this, or they wouldn't be dabbling in this way

They are not dabbling. They are selling a lot of mirrorless cameras that sell very well in markets they are designed towards. 'We', typical CR readers, are not the target market for the M Canon believe is profitable to build.

 

[brad-man]

Am I the only person who thinks its odd that in a little over 4 years time Canon will have released 5 iterations of the M body and only 7 lenses, six of which are quite slow?

It fits their idea of what the M is. Canon believe it is a P&S market camera and regular u[grades are the norm. Most people don't buy more lenses than the kit lens anyway so why bother with more? They are all slow because Canon see the main 'advantage' of mirrorless system over a small DSLR is size, fast lenses that cover an APS-C sensor aren't small so don't fit the design brief.

I quite agree that Canon is marketing the M series for the Rebel Jr crowd, but it was cruel of them to release the wonderful 22mm early on and not follow thru with a few more fast primes. It may not make financial sense for Canon to do so, but dammit, it's what I want. Stupid Canon.

 

[Dylan777]

•24.2mp (80D sensor or some variant, we’re 90% sure on this)
•Built-in electronic viewfinder
•A new AF system (Could be the best new feature of the EOS M line)
•A more classical camera design, more in line with Fuji or Olympus

These look promising. Still, it's crop

tilting/swivel screen??? Big mistake if Canon doesn't have one.

 

[HaroldC3]

Hi,
G5X look alike??

Have a nice day.

Sounds like it. Hopefully with the fully articulating touch screen.

 

[ahsanford]

Very interesting. If Canon do this properly with a meaningful feature set, they've got themselves a winner. Sensor sounds good, EVF at long last, possible DPAF...mmmmmm!

-pw

Integral EVF at long last indeed.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

Am I the only person who thinks its odd that in a little over 4 years time Canon will have released 5 iterations of the M body and only 7 lenses, six of which are quite slow?

It's not odd at all. It's just Canon being foolish.

1) They want to keep the aggregate system (body + lens) small, and slower glass allows that.

2) If you want fast, adapt some EF glass.

I have long been beating the drums for clever sort-of-quick lenses with USM focusing in the native EF-M mount to stay relatively small. EF-M f/2 USM primes would be awesome.

- A

 

[Rocky]

Canon should have put IS into the EF-M 22/2. That will make the M a good low light camera.

 

[TeT]

Hears hoping it is as usable as my 6D...

 

[Chaitanya]

DPAF and 4K video would certainly make this camera a great All in one solution for videographers.

 

[ahsanford]

Silly technical question:

Would dropping the identical 80D sensor into the EOS-M (which is effectively run in LiveView) guarantee it will employ DPAF? Any chance they could use the sensor to capture images but opt to not use DPAF for battery or processing cost reasons, or does using that 80D sensor effectively mandate DPAF?

(I would love DPAF, but I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here. I don't know if choosing to use the 80D sensor includes everything it does on the 80D.)

- A

 

[cellomaster27]

Silly technical question:

Would dropping the identical 80D sensor into the EOS-M (which is effectively run in LiveView) guarantee it will employ DPAF? Any chance they could use the sensor to capture images but opt to not use DPAF for battery or processing cost reasons, or does using that 80D sensor effectively mandate DPAF?

(I would love DPAF, but I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here. I don't know if choosing to use the 80D sensor includes everything it does on the 80D.)

- A

it says "80D sensor or a variant". It would be very disappointing to see the M5 not having DPAF. I mean, that's just stupid. It's a technology that Canon has had out for a couple years now.. they should implement it in every new model with pride. Not just a way to partition the various lines by including/excluding features. If they want the M5 to be popular, they need to think forward, not backwards. It'll still be popular regardless among canon fans but will it be a competition against other brands? will see~

 

[MrFotoFool]

Finally a built in viewfinder! (I would rather have an optical viewfinder, but this is better than the nothing on my original M).

 

[eosuser1234]

Could this offer the new global shutter Canon has been speaking of?
If so, it would make a big impact for Canon on the upper end of the mirrorless market.

 

[Woody]

With DPAF and EVF, I will be looking very hard at this camera. Otherwise...

 

[Quackator]

On a German forum somebody reported that Canon Germany sales staff will be told about the new camera today. So, it is imminent any minute.

I think I'll preorder.....

 

[Hector1970]

Hopefully it is a good camera.
I'm certainly interested.
It would be great if it came with a number of fast primes.
Something like
15mm
22mm
30mm
50mm
Roughly the equivalent of 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm
I've been tempted by Fuji and Olympus as they have good primes.
Let's see what happens.

 

[hne]

If it's got DPAF, proper physical controls*, and is announced with either an EF-M 53/1.2, EF-M 85/1.4 or EF-M 15-40/1.8 I'd be highly interested in getting one. Maybe even one of each. Especially if those lenses had IS.



* a rear control dial that is possible to reach one-handed would satisfy me

 

[Fleetie]

If it's got DPAF, proper physical controls*, and is announced with either an EF-M 53/1.2, EF-M 85/1.4 ...

Ha-ha! What a comedian!

 

[rrcphoto]

They should simply release a mirrorless 5D4 version and keep the EF mount!

The 6D is about as small a camera as you are gonna get with a full-frame EF mount. They could go smaller in places (like a 100D against the 750D), but, functionally it will not match the thin-ness of the A7 series. Just making it mirrorless doesnt magically make the camera smaller, EF mount has a 44mm flange, meaning the camera has to be bigger to handle a lens + sensor

Wrong.
Ef mirrorless could be the same size as an SL1