Canon EOS R1 Spotted in the wild at the Monaco GP

[FaolainWolf]

Nobody has said it yet so I will. Since the "R3 Mark II" is being released will the original be discounted now.

The R3 mk.1 has been deeply discounted (by $1500) for some time now. But note that the flagship 1Dx has NOT been discounted!

 

[Gendra]

is this a shot of the drive modes of the R1?

AF only available up to 4fps? Well now it makes sense why they are using an FD lens on the R1.

 

[kaihp]

If this is based on the SN plate on the bottom, the R3 also says 15.0V from what I can see.

The 15.0V is the input (charging) voltage - not the battery voltage.

The batteries for the integrated vertical grips use 3 cells in series using LithiumIon chemistry, which is why you see 3 * 3.6-3.7V = 10.8V on the LP-E19 (R3) and 11.1V on the older LP-E4N (1Dx) batteries. The batteries for the other cameras used 2 cells in series, hence the 7.4V working voltage.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

is this a shot of the drive modes of the R1?

Haha no.. Leica Q3. The speed demon!

 

[Fbimages]

I’m secretly hoping the resolution will be higher than rumoured.
I love my R3 to bits and the files are unbelievably sharp when using electronic shutter, but when I have time to set up a shot and can use the R5, the extra detail is very welcome.
Surely, after all this time, a small bump in resolution to at least match the Z9 should be expected.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

I’m secretly hoping the resolution will be higher than rumoured.
I love my R3 to bits and the files are unbelievably sharp when using electronic shutter, but when I have time to set up a shot and can use the R5, the extra detail is very welcome.
Surely, after all this time, a small bump in resolution to at least match the Z9 should be expected.

Can I interest you in a copy of Topaz Labs Photo AI?

I was at El Classico a few weeks ago, of course I look at the photographer areas. I saw 2 black lenses in a sea of red ring white lenses. A few Sony's splattered around. Canon isn't competing with Nikon. One of the Nikon cameras was a D6.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

The 15.0V is the input (charging) voltage - not the battery voltage.

The batteries for the integrated vertical grips use 3 cells in series using LithiumIon chemistry, which is why you see 3 * 3.6-3.7V = 10.8V on the LP-E19 (R3) and 11.1V on the older LP-E4N (1Dx) batteries. The batteries for the other cameras used 2 cells in series, hence the 7.4V working voltage.

Thanks, I updated this point on the post.

 

[amorse]

Honestly, the movement of the trash bin offset from the other buttons is a nice touch. With the number of times I’ve been using my camera in pitch black and tried to zoom into an image on the back of the camera but got the trash instead, this would be a welcome addition.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Honestly, the movement of the trash bin offset from the other buttons is a nice touch. With the number of times I’ve been using my camera in pitch black and tried to zoom into an image on the back of the camera but got the trash instead, this would be a welcome addition.

I too have noticed some of the subtle things... and they have reminded me of a few R3 annoyances. I have popped the card door open a few times.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

But honestly if one wants a rugged, high MP body for wildlife you should be switching to Nikon with a Z9 and lens selection geared to wildlife.

A lot more folks seem to go for the Z 8 which the R5 II specs would outmatch.
Also if Canon comes out with the RF 200-500 f/4 and the 1.0x-1.4x-2.0x Extender then I would give the lens edge to Canon.
Nikon would still have the edge in light weight, mid priced primes but zoom lenses tend to be more useful.
I would still like to see an RF 600 f/6.3 DO from Canon but I have no interest in prime lenses like the 400 f/4.5 or the 800 f/6.3 PF vs the RF100-500 or RF 200-800.

 

[uPhotic]

It's a nice niche camera. But flagship? 24MP can't be your flagship in 2020 . . . much much less 2024. Heck, iPhones are over 40MP these days! (Even APPLE knows 24MP isn't enough anymore!) This is an embarrassment. Worst of all . . . Canon KNEW you couldn't have a 24MP "flagship" four years ago!

Not sure what kind of iPhone you have but they have decided 24mp is enough. The standard image of the brand new iPhone 15 pro max is 24mp. It uses a 12mp image (what the sensor resolution is effective as it is a quad bayer) and stacks it with a 48mp image using the quad bayer layout and a demosaic image process. These sensors use the quad bayer for a little bit more detail yes, but also for an effective quad pixel autofocus. So this 24mp R1 sensor if apple marketed it would be a 96mp beast that bins down to 24mp to give you the performance and good detail. If your saying this then the sony a1, a7rV, nikon z8,z9 are all bad cause even samsung knows that only 200mp is enough. The $50k+ Phase One camera known for some of, if not, the best detail/image quality in any camera is lacking at only 150mp. That's an entire a1 less.

How embarrassing /s

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Those tester have different cameras again

The fact that the camera has a registration sticker means it is a production camera.
Although, I guess they could swap out a few components without having to register again.

 

[uPhotic]

The 15.0V is the input (charging) voltage - not the battery voltage.

The batteries for the integrated vertical grips use 3 cells in series using LithiumIon chemistry, which is why you see 3 * 3.6-3.7V = 10.8V on the LP-E19 (R3) and 11.1V on the older LP-E4N (1Dx) batteries. The batteries for the other cameras used 2 cells in series, hence the 7.4V working voltage.

You are quite right. I was just mentioning that this is the same as R3.

Charging voltage is also a dubious method to judge what the voltage used is though. Having to change voltage too much leads to inefficiencies which can cause more heat than needed. It's why some laptop manufacturers have kept voltages at around 20v to limit heat. This doesn't stop them from going up to 48V though

 

[EOS 4 Life]

So he might have insight about the R1 if he was able to talk and then share information.

I am not sure he would be allowed to.

 

[Emyr Evans]

Regarding the "The battery voltage seems to show 15v, which will probably mean faster charging for the new battery. We'd be surprised if it wasn't the same form factor as the LP-E19"

Here's underneath my R3 - is this not the same?

 

[EOS 4 Life]

But this means they have to try to make it the best 24mpixel camera ever.

It is but so was the R3.
24 MP is enough for a lot of people but so is the R3, heck even the R6 II and R8.
Canon has really shrunk the potential market for the R1.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Bitrate and readout are way more important than a meaningless jump in pixel count.

I own an R3 and those are fast enough for me.
I also own an R5 and it sounds like the R5 II will be there for both speed and pixel count.

 

[blackcoffee17]

Isn't it amazing that we are nearly half way through 2024 and STILL the only camera with a 2tb internal hard drive is a Hasselblad?

Based on what has been spilled thus far, I'm not impressed... And really, one of the leaked photos is using a 50+ year old FD film camera lens... REALLY?!? (Face Palm)!

Thank god! We don't want a fragile and soldered SSD inside a professional camera that will need to be replaced in 2-3 years, together with the whole motherboard for $5K.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

All you're saying is you don't understand who the R1 is built for.

It is not very clear to me who the R1 is built for that the R3 isn't.

 

[kaihp]

You are quite right. I was just mentioning that this is the same as R3.

Charging voltage is also a dubious method to judge what the voltage used is though. Having to change voltage too much leads to inefficiencies which can cause more heat than needed. It's why some laptop manufacturers have kept voltages at around 20v to limit heat. This doesn't stop them from going up to 48V though

The change to switch-mode power supplies have given pretty awesome efficiencies, so I'd say that the heat from SMPS'es are a pretty moot point.