More Canon EOS M5 Specifications Emerge

[Luds34]

I think this camera is going to be pricier than we think....

I'm inclined to agree. I foresee lots of threads and posts essentially saying that the poster was a buyer at $700 or $800 but at $1,200 they are going to pass.

I have a feeling you are correct. This does appear to be more of a xxD level camera. And the last few generations (60D/70D/80D) have all debuted around that $1200 mark. Of course, I'm also optimistic that 6 months down the road or so the price might drop a bit.

 

[Sharlin]

Why can't we get exposures longer than 30 seconds built into the camera? It would could be useful at night or with very strong ND filters.

Well, at least these days Canon deigns to put a bulb timer feature into their enthusiast and pro bodies. I presume the M5 is going to get it too. When the maximum possible exposure time is 99h59min59sec it's better to have the feature in a dedicated menu instead of a dial anyway

 

[LDS]

A 3.5mm plug for a wired remote?

These are over, Apple said so. You'll get an app, via Bluetooth or WiFi, for that... ;D

Just:

1) If your phone is not supported
2) If the app is not upgraded to work with newer phone OS

You'll lose that feature altogether....

The jack doesn't look so bad, after all...

 

[Etienne]

A 3.5mm plug for a wired remote?

These are over, Apple said so. You'll get an app, via Bluetooth or WiFi, for that... ;D

Just:

1) If your phone is not supported
2) If the app is not upgraded to work with newer phone OS

You'll lose that feature altogether....

The jack doesn't look so bad, after all...

I'd rather have a headphone plug

 

[keithcooper]

100D/SL1 replacement?

Does this mean there might not be a 100D/SL1 replacement?

Very slightly heavier than the 100D
Similar height/width and a bit thinner

Other specs a few years on from the 100D

 

[7DmkI]

I think this camera is going to be pricier than we think....

I'm inclined to agree. I foresee lots of threads and posts essentially saying that the poster was a buyer at $700 or $800 but at $1,200 they are going to pass.

Totally agree. A lot us us are using the "M"s as a second or light travel camera. Even if the price is just over a thousand, I believe a lot of us will pass.

 

[gregorywood]

And it also drops down to 12 bit mode and evf resolution as soon as someone starts using headline features on Sony.

Not to mention that it probably overheats and occasionally just freezes (see what I did there).

Sony has some really nice products on paper, but they just don't work. This applies in my experience to their cameras, phones and laptops (back when they made them) at least.

I swore to never buy another Sony product again after several instances of failures just past the warranty. This occurred on a Walkman, two televisions, a DVD player and a PS2.

I'm invested in Canon and like their system. I feel like it is an investment and can't fathom selling the kit and jumping completely to another platform. I've considered getting an SL1 for a while now and then this M5 hits the front page. I'm in "wait and see mode" for a while. I figure in 3 months I'll get one or the other.

 

[millan]

I wonder, why there isn't any mention about built in GPS, especially when the camera is ideal for travelling.

 

[elcpu]

And it also drops down to 12 bit mode and evf resolution as soon as someone starts using headline features on Sony.

Not to mention that it probably overheats and occasionally just freezes (see what I did there).

Sony has some really nice products on paper, but they just don't work. This applies in my experience to their cameras, phones and laptops (back when they made them) at least.

Does it show same frozen frame during 12/8 FPS modes? Is 8 fps mode with subject tracking also 12bit on Sony?
Another issue with a6300 is, it doesn't use lens full open while doing AF. If someone is shooting at slower aperture even with faster lens, AF takes a hit. Is it the case with M3 and Canon. There are so many hidden things with Sony (along with their expensive crop lens and abandoning crop lens development), I avoided them even with lot of positive reviews so far. I think, Sony is very generous with reviewers.

I agree with both of you completely. I know Sony gets great reviews and as a result I spent hours in Best Buy evaluating the A6300, got to know their camera geeks pretty well. I cannot understand why Sony does not include a touch screen on their mirrorless. I use my M3 touch screen regularly when I want to focus on a certain area of the screen. No matter how smart the AF is, how can it decide between the bird I want or the squirrel I do not want. The A6000, more in line with the M3, does not even include a level. I am seriously considering the M5, it is looking good to me but will wait on the price...

 

[typer1998]

I love the M3 and use it all the time. My main complaints with it are no wired shutter release/remote port and the slow AF and shot to shot times. The work around for no shutter release remote port is to use the RC-6 which can also function as a bulb open and close. The slow AF and shot to shot times though there isn't much a person can do. Luckily I don't shoot action or wildlife much so it hasn't been a problem. Still, I expect I'll buy the M5 the first month it's released.

The battery is the same LP-E17 used in the M3. This usually lasts me a whole day of shooting, but I always carry a spare just in case. I'm glad I can use the same battery between the M3 and M5.

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

I sold all my Canon DSLRs and am in the process of selling the EF lenses too. I plan to use the M3 and M5 for everything from now on. This transition took time, much like Nikon to Canon, where I kept some equipment just in case I needed it or decided the change wasn't going to work. It's been a 1.5 years and the M3 is almost everything I need. Along with the M5 I don't expect to buy a DSLR anytime in the near future. I suspect this is what Canon was worried about, but after seeing the Sony and Fuji's sell so well they finally decided to jump in. I wonder if they will release a FF mirrorless? Not sure what Nikon is thinking but they arel really late to the mirrorless party. I expect the M5 will be Canon's biggest seller even selling more units than the Rebels.

 

[brightside]

I hope there's a built in intervalometer.

 

[MadHungarian]

Hmm, but the M5 is the same size/weight as my poor little orphaned SL1. And my SL1 uses all the EF-S and EF lenses without adapter. If I try to stick an adapter on the new M5, that thing will be huge, a lot bigger than my SL1. If only Canon had released the SL2. But I know the two lines/approaches directly compete with each other, so Canon can't really pursue both.

I bought a complete M3 system last year, but then sold it off again. There was much I liked about the M3, but it just wasn't there for me:
The (external) EVF was nice, but too big & bulky & fragile. The M5's semi-internal one should be nice.
The M3's menuing system didn't suit me -- my most used DSLR settings were missing, and all the items I always add to the custom menu were all missing for some strange reason. Irritated me to no end.
As previous poster mentioned, I found the shot-to-shot time too long too.
The EF-M lenses are too slow at the f/6.3 end. Maybe the californians are fine with that, but I find I need a faster f/stop up here in the cloudy and foresty NW.

 

[CarlMillerPhoto]

5-axis electronic image stabilization

Electronic stabilization? Uh-o.

 

[Etienne]

5-axis electronic image stabilization

Electronic stabilization? Uh-o.

That's for video

 

[BenKing]

Is there any way to guess what the picture quality improvement this will offer over the M3? I've been thinking about a smaller rig for some of our family outings, and the price of the M3 is certainly tempting. I'm not a quick-fire shooter, so most of the complaints that I've read wouldn't really apply to me. I don't mind spending more for the M5, but the differences would have be VERY compelling.

Also, I wonder if the price of the M3 will drop even farther once the M5 is released.

 

[Fritz_us]

Have we heard (and did I miss it?) a potential on sale date?

Thanks

 

[transpo1]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

 

[dak723]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

You'll keep saying it and it will do no good if you keep saying it here. Have you sent emails or contacted Canon in any way? That might be productive. Saying it here - over and over - will do nothing but annoy your fellow CR users.

 

[Bernard]

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

That's because it is taking a dark frame to calculate noise. Lots of cameras do that, not just Canon. Not sure if you can turn it off.

 

[transpo1]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

You'll keep saying it and it will do no good if you keep saying it here. Have you sent emails or contacted Canon in any way? That might be productive. Saying it here - over and over - will do nothing but annoy your fellow CR users.

You're absolutely right- good point. It is very clear that Canon does not read or listen to anyone on these boards. If they did, they'd realize they could sell a lot more cameras by including certain features.