More Canon EOS M5 Specifications Emerge

[LDS]

Re: 100D/SL1 replacement?

Does this mean there might not be a 100D/SL1 replacement?

Good question, just only Canon could answer.... I was looking too for a lighter camera to carry around more often, and the M till now didn't appeal much to me till now (especially for me the lack of OVF/EVF), but also found the 100D a little "underspecced" - and I prefer to stick to a single brand so I can more easily reuse some accessories, and "UIX" is more similar.

It is true the M requires new lenses, but the 100D is compact enough only if used also with lenses compact enough. Hope a "110D" isn't announced as soon as I buy an M5

 

[LDS]

If they did, they'd realize they could sell a lot more cameras by including certain features.

A few tens more? <G>

 

[Sharlin]

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

That's because it is taking a dark frame to calculate noise. Lots of cameras do that, not just Canon. Not sure if you can turn it off.

You definitely can. It's called Long Exposure Noise Reduction in the menus. (Also described in the manual )

 

[dak723]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

You'll keep saying it and it will do no good if you keep saying it here. Have you sent emails or contacted Canon in any way? That might be productive. Saying it here - over and over - will do nothing but annoy your fellow CR users.

You're absolutely right- good point. It is very clear that Canon does not read or listen to anyone on these boards. If they did, they'd realize they could sell a lot more cameras by including certain features.

You may be right, or they may sell less, since, in my experience, the CR member is not the average camera buyer in almost any way. Alas, there is no way to know.

 

[MadHungarian]

Re: 100D/SL1 replacement?

...
but the 100D is compact enough only if used also with lenses compact enough.
...

True. And I haven't yet found a good small & light mid-zoom for my SL1. The EFS 10-18mm STM is nice on the wide side (but would be nicer if it went to 22mm...), and the EFS 55-250mm is nice on the tele side. I make do with my EFS 15-85mm, but it's not exactly small&light.

 

[lw]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

We need a M5 version of this "Requesting a 4K Canon 5D Mark IV @ Canon European HQ "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed44leAaOAE

 

[typer1998]

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

That's because it is taking a dark frame to calculate noise. Lots of cameras do that, not just Canon. Not sure if you can turn it off.

You definitely can. It's called Long Exposure Noise Reduction in the menus. (Also described in the manual )

Yes, just checked and it was set to Auto. I didn't think that would impact shooting RAW only, but I guess it does. Thanks.

 

[rrcphoto]

Nice camera. Do I have to ask? Yes, I do. Until Canon relents and gives it to us.

Why doesn't this have 4K?

It's rhetorical, ladies and gents, no need to argue. But I'll keep saying it until they do it.

You'll keep saying it and it will do no good if you keep saying it here. Have you sent emails or contacted Canon in any way? That might be productive. Saying it here - over and over - will do nothing but annoy your fellow CR users.

You're absolutely right- good point. It is very clear that Canon does not read or listen to anyone on these boards. If they did, they'd realize they could sell a lot more cameras by including certain features.

or they happen to know their markets better than you do.

here.. this may even come in 4K...

 

[Tugela]

More detailed specifications of the Canon EOS M5 have emerged ahead of tomorrows announcement.</p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS M5 Specifications</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2 million pixels (the total number of pixels 25.8 million pixels) APS-C CMOS</li>
<li>Dual pixel AF CMOS</li>
<li>Video engine: DIGIC 7</li>
<li>ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600</li>
<li>Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30 seconds</li>
<li>The maximum flash synchro shutter speed 1/200 sec</li>
<li>Continuous shooting: up to about 9 frames / sec., about 7 frames / sec (at the time of AF tracking?)</li>
<li>Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization</li>
<li>EVF: 2.36 million dot</li>
<li>LCD Screen: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD</li>
<li>Wireless features: Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11B / G / N), Bluetooth (4.1)</li>
<li>Battery: LP-E17</li>
<li>Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)</li>
<li>Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 Mm</li>
<li>Weight: about 380g (body only), 427g (including battery · SD card)</li>
</ul>
<p>This looks to be the first EOS M camera we’re actually excited about.</p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

Yup, it has half caught up to 2014.

Too bad we are in the tail end of 2016 now and the world has moved on.

 

[Tugela]

And it also drops down to 12 bit mode and evf resolution as soon as someone starts using headline features on Sony.

Not to mention that it probably overheats and occasionally just freezes (see what I did there).

Sony has some really nice products on paper, but they just don't work. This applies in my experience to their cameras, phones and laptops (back when they made them) at least.

I have a RX100M3 and it works just fine.

 

[Tugela]

I just had a thought, it would be hilarious if this camera has for 4K without motion JPEGS! Oh man, people would rage.

Won't happen. If they could do native compressed 4K in a camera this small, they would have done it in the 5D4 as well, and they didn't (for good reason).

 

[Tugela]

You know, with all these specs leaked, someone has the box, or manual.

h264 codec details please? IE how many mbits/sec does 1080/60 portion? Be nice if they upp'd it, or GOP'd it.

Video performance and specs will likely be fairly similar to that in the G7XII.

 

[Tugela]

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

The reason for that extended processing time is that the camera is constantly reading data from the sensor and storing it up. When the exposure is complete it combines all that data to generate the final image. All that processing takes time, which is why it takes so long. The longer your exposure the more raw data and consequently the longer it takes to compile it all.

A long exposure on a digital camera is actually many exposures which are then all added up electronically. It is not like a film camera.

 

[BokehBalls]

What s going on people? Everybody wants every feature in every new camera. You can't have everything.

 

[IglooEater]

What s going on people? Everybody wants every feature in every new camera. You can't have everything.

Of course you can't have everything- after all, where would you put it all?

 

[dak723]

More detailed specifications of the Canon EOS M5 have emerged ahead of tomorrows announcement.</p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS M5 Specifications</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2 million pixels (the total number of pixels 25.8 million pixels) APS-C CMOS</li>
<li>Dual pixel AF CMOS</li>
<li>Video engine: DIGIC 7</li>
<li>ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600</li>
<li>Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30 seconds</li>
<li>The maximum flash synchro shutter speed 1/200 sec</li>
<li>Continuous shooting: up to about 9 frames / sec., about 7 frames / sec (at the time of AF tracking?)</li>
<li>Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization</li>
<li>EVF: 2.36 million dot</li>
<li>LCD Screen: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD</li>
<li>Wireless features: Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11B / G / N), Bluetooth (4.1)</li>
<li>Battery: LP-E17</li>
<li>Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)</li>
<li>Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 Mm</li>
<li>Weight: about 380g (body only), 427g (including battery · SD card)</li>
</ul>
<p>This looks to be the first EOS M camera we’re actually excited about.</p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

Yup, it has half caught up to 2014.

Too bad we are in the tail end of 2016 now and the world has moved on.

Guess what - they made great cameras way back in 2014. These are cameras - not smart phones. If you want every useless bell and whistle to sucker customers into getting a new product, get one of those. This sounds like it will be a very good camera and the response seems quite positive. If you want the bells and whistles, just get your Sony and leave us alone. We are tired of the moronic bashing.

 

[nads]

Everything +'s,-except the battery... Verticle grip/Battery compartment availability maybe could help..?

I'm surprised there haven't been more complaints about the battery... and there really shouldn't be any.

I've posted about this before but last year we went to Disneyland with the M3, 22mm and 11-22mm. When getting ready to walk into the park I realized I left my spare LP-E17 and charger both in a hotel 6 hours away. I thought I was screwed.

6 hours on day 1, open to close on day 2 and the battery was still alive. At the hotel I was scrolling through images with the ipad connected to WIFI to edit a few. I still have 575 or so images from those two days and that single battery charge in my lightroom catalog.

With the M5 I will have 3 batteries and 2 chargers.... I'm glad they didn't change that part.

 

[d]

There is one problem with the M3 that I haven't seen written up anywhere. I need to research it a bit more but long exposures over 1 minute will take an equal amount of time to process. I shot a 3 minute exposure and it took about 3 minutes to write to the card. Not sure if a firmware upgrade or card change will help, but this was a huge problem on my last trip.

The reason for that extended processing time is that the camera is constantly reading data from the sensor and storing it up. When the exposure is complete it combines all that data to generate the final image. All that processing takes time, which is why it takes so long. The longer your exposure the more raw data and consequently the longer it takes to compile it all.

A long exposure on a digital camera is actually many exposures which are then all added up electronically. It is not like a film camera.

No, that's incorrect. The additional time is due to the camera making a second image - an unexposed dark frame - equal in duration to the actual photo, which is then subtracted from the main image to reduce noise in the image. As another poster explained, this can be avoided by changing the settings for 'Long Exposure Noise Reduction'.

C'mon Tugela - it's the tail end of 2016 - you should be caught up on all this stuff by now!

 

[canonographer]

So close Canon. Just stretch it out a bit, add a full frame sensor, EF mount, and I'm all in.

 

[rushfan21122]

$979.
11/30/16
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