Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

[jmoya]

It would be nice to have 120fps at 1080p or even 720p. 60fps at 1080 is pretty poor. my g7x mark I does that and I bought it for $350 a few months back. I even sold one of my canon 5d mark III bodies a few weeks back in anticipation of this 6d mark II. Kinda making me regret my decision.

 

[wildwalker]

Canon does line skipping for video, and cropping. It does not use all the pixels, it does not downsample. Canon doesn't have a single full frame camera doing full frame video or downsampling from a full frame sensor. They just skip lines. So your argument makes no sense.

Well on a DSLR that is 20+MP, you have to throw something away. A UHD frame is 8Mp, so you have to reduce the pixel count somehow. Best way, with least processing is to take alternate pixels or lines, or just use the centre 8Mp of the sensor (but you get a serious crop factor).

Also, in general terms stills (from Canon) are 4:3 and video is 16:9, so you won't generally get a 'full frame' video as the height is always less due to the aspect ratios.

Yes you can get 4K from a phone, but 3840x2160 pixels doesn't mean true 4K, it depends on what information was used to created that, and some phones have terrible variable frame rates, and the compression is very high.

I think we all knew the video of the new 6D would be sub 5DMk4. And that does not have great UHD support, so we shouldn't be surprised.

I guess your only option, if you don't want to buy the new 6D, is to see what Canon's first mirror less offering is, maybe that is where they are thinking about 4k due to the lack of mirror?

Alan.

 

[Mikehit]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

Little 4k content? Are you insane? Do you know what youtube is? There are tens of thousands of 4k videos.

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

And I bet 6D 1080 beats mobile phone 4k

 

[wildwalker]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

Little 4k content? Are you insane? Do you know what youtube is? There are tens of thousands of 4k videos.

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

I do a lot of 4K gaming, so have quite a few 4K and 2K videos on my channel. You forgot GoPro as well, probably one of the earliest platforms doing affordable (but only 15fps) UHD.

 

[wildwalker]

It would be nice to have 120fps at 1080p or even 720p. 60fps at 1080 is pretty poor. my g7x mark I does that and I bought it for $350 a few months back. I even sold one of my canon 5d mark III bodies a few weeks back in anticipation of this 6d mark II. Kinda making me regret my decision.

Why? if you want to do slowmo use software renders that can do that, these days they don't just frame multiply, they work out all the motion vectors and do proper frame blending to produce fantastic results.

 

[testthewest]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

Little 4k content? Are you insane? Do you know what youtube is? There are tens of thousands of 4k videos.

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Tens of thousands is nothing against millions that are not. 4k on youtube is a rareity. Youtube is also not a place for high quality videos - nobody expects them there, internet connections often aren't even good enough, it is simply a wasted effort.
And I'll be honest: If 4k meant higher price, I'd rather not have it. And since 4k needs higher hardware specs just for it, I will cost more to produce.

 

[smr]

Still don't understand the 4k moaning... what's the primary purpose of a DSLR? If you're that bothered about video just get a 4K recorder of another device/brand/camera?

 

[Etienne]

4K cannot be ignored, and with DPAF delivering the dream of reliable video autofocus it is only natural that videographers want it now, especially in full frame.

Who said they are ignoring it? They just don't think it is important to the target market of the 6D2 and 5DIV - and given the amount of research they do to find out what people need, I trust their experience rather than your 'I want everything in one camera at the same price' view'.

The intimacy of an f/1.4 portrait lens on a FF is so tantalizing, but it is notoriously difficult to focus. Getting a 4K option with DPAF in full frame would not in anyway replace or compete with the cinema line, but it would add the ability get that full frame intimate look for key shots.

Are you talking stills or video?
Do Sony offer 4K full frame vdieo with DPAF? Just asking. If not, why not go over to Sony and complain about their lack of technology?

Also, when travelling light, and/or alone, multiple cameras is not always possible. The idea that you should always have and use the perfect camera for the job, say 6D for stills and bring a C300 for video, is not only unrealistic, but bringing an excess of equipment can prevent you from getting the shots.

Which camera offers that 'one camera fits everything' role? Does Sony? Panasonic?

Virtually every free lancer will have dealt with this issue. Having a compact stills/video/low light/ shallow DOF all in one camera is the needed too, and the right tool for the one-man-band freelancer ... even if they have to up the price.

Which camera offers this?

The reason I ask 'which camera...' above is to see if one camera does do everything you want, and does everything to the highest level you would want. Please do enlighten me which camera is the one you would prefer given a free choice.

The point is that the technology appears to be available, or at least tantalizingly close.

Someone probably snarkily asked "What camera does that?" when someone suggested they wanted their high resolution photos immediately. Fortunately people with vision were'nt so snarky.

Set the bar high, and we'll get there. And frankly, I think Sony will get there before Canon.

 

[Nininini]

internet connections often aren't even good enough, it is simply a wasted effort.

what? do you people live in the same universe as the rest of us?

15Mb/s (2MB/s)...is the minimum netflix recommends for 4k...I can't think of a single developed nation that doesn't have these internet speeds

Youtube is also not a place for high quality videos - nobody expects them there

again, do you people live in the same universe as the rest of us

Youtube is not the place for 4k? Youtube has a 4k prominently displayed in their filter at the top of the page!

I filtered out 4k videos, there are millions on youtube currently.

 

[hbr]

As always, I'm on here fighting the losing battle to open your minds. Unfortunately, the conservative CanonFanboy mindset cannot at this time comprehend the future of video and stills hybrid shooting.

It doesn't matter if you win or lose. When the 6D2 arrives you will get what Canon gives you. You can either buy it or not. Easy solution to the argument.

 

[Etienne]

So the forum experts have declared the 6DII Dead on Arrival because it might not have 4K video.

The same 'experts' have declared each new Canon camera DoA before they were each announced.

Yes. I remember all the wailing when the 6D was introduced. Didn't stop it from becoming Amazon's best selling full frame camera though, did it?

Well, there you go. Living on past laurels. Didn't that work out well for Blackberry, who dominated the world cell phone market and is now all but extinct; and Nortel, who shared the world network switching market with Cisco, but is now bankrupt.

Your competitors don't sleep. They want to eat your lunch.

 

[Loswr]

If the 2017 6D MII doesn't have 4k, you will have to wait until 2022 6D MIII for 4k.

Right, because Canon doesn't make any 4K-capable cameras.

It's purely about money for Canon, Canon refuses to use 3rd party chips and will continue to refuse, because that is the mindset in Japan. Protectionism at all cost, even if it means shooting in your own foot.

And have they shot themselves in the foot? Last I checked, they were the #1 global ILC market leader and have been for >14 years. Or did you mean they will shoot themselves in the foot, at some unspecified future time. Gee, with clairvoyance like that, you must be filthy rich from lottery winnings.

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Wow...clairvoyant, and you speak for everyone. Well, aren't you special. :

 

[hmatthes]

Pre-announcement trolls always amuse me with their bitching. Easy to tell the real buyers from the trolls.

Real buyers state realistic desires without any "threats"... "if it doesn't do 8K at 120 fps, I'll move to GoPro..."
Let's be real folks: buyers own lenses and spare batteries and speed lights etc. -- real buyers may pass on a new body that doesn't meet their needs. Or buy a used 5D-III instead of a new 6D-II.

Trolls don't buy anything except the closeout obsolete specials at Walmart and Best Buys.

If Canon fails to do something I need, I'd think long and hard about which brand would treat me better.

Cameras and Lenses are tools, not magic. My backup SL-1 does everything my 6D does but at slightly lower IQ when using the same glass.

 

[Nininini]

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Wow...clairvoyant, and you speak for everyone. Well, aren't you special. :

Clairvoyant? Smartphones have had 4k for several years now. It's standard on any mid to highend phone.

Nothing to do clairvoyance. 4k is now the standard.

 

[jeffa4444]

why woud they make the 6D II better at anything then the 5D IV in your theory of specs?

With sensors, the tech is continuously evolving, albeit at a slower rate now.... as a general rule, the latest release has the best tech and therefore, the best sensor. Some notable examples of this have been when the 60D came out with a better sensor than the 7D, and the 80D with a better sensor than the 7D2, and the 6D with a better sensor than the 5D2... Of course, the sensor is only one component and the higher models usually have better AF, frame rates, sealing, ergonomics, etc....

The 6D came out just after the 5D MKIII not the 5D MKII

 

[Nininini]

If the 2017 6D MII doesn't have 4k, you will have to wait until 2022 6D MIII for 4k.

Right, because Canon doesn't make any 4K-capable cameras.

So your excuse for Canon refusing to incorporate 4k in a $2000 body, is that you can just buy the $6000 body.

Man, what a great idea, just tell people to buy $6000+ bodies, Canon should hire you. This strategy will work out swell.

ILC sales having dropped year after year because smartphones are shooting great video should be ignored, just tell Canon users to drop $6000 on a body. How "clairvoyant".

 

[Don Haines]

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Wow...clairvoyant, and you speak for everyone. Well, aren't you special. :

Clairvoyant? Smartphones have had 4k for several years now. It's standard on any mid to highend phone.

Nothing to do clairvoyance. 4k is now the standard.

I know of one phone manufacturer that is working on 8K video on a phone and has a working 6K prototype....

 

[Loswr]

So the forum experts have declared the 6DII Dead on Arrival because it might not have 4K video.

The same 'experts' have declared each new Canon camera DoA before they were each announced.

Yes. I remember all the wailing when the 6D was introduced. Didn't stop it from becoming Amazon's best selling full frame camera though, did it?

Well, there you go. Living on past laurels. Didn't that work out well for Blackberry, who dominated the world cell phone market and is now all but extinct; and Nortel, who shared the world network switching market with Cisco, but is now bankrupt.

Your competitors don't sleep. They want to eat your lunch.

Show us your evidence that Canon is 'sleeping'. Note that not providing a feature that you think they should doesn't constitute 'evidence'. Canon sells more ILCs than anyone else. That's not past, that's current.

In 2016, Canon was granted the third most US patents of any company (3,665 of them)...that's more than Intel, Microsoft, Apple, or Google. That's planning for the future.

But hey, you think the 6DII should have 4K. If it doesn't, Canon is doomed. Yeah, your logic is impeccable. I bet you won a lot of debate club competitions. :

 

[Loswr]

So your excuse for Canon refusing to incorporate 4k in a $2000 body, is that you can just buy the $6000 body.

Why would I have to make excuses? If you are speaking for everyone, and everyone should be shooting 4K, a lack of 4K video means no one will buy the 6DII. Somehow, I expect Canon will manage to sell a few of them. :

 

[Don Haines]

If the 2017 6D MII doesn't have 4k, you will have to wait until 2022 6D MIII for 4k.

Right, because Canon doesn't make any 4K-capable cameras.

I will probably get a 6D2. I would prefer that it had 4K video and I am surprised that it does not. Canon does seem to be very late to the game with that feature, particularly since phones, P/S cameras, and action cameras (like GoPro) have had it for many years now.... Like I said, I would prefer it, but it is not a dealbreaker. Perhaps they will include it when they finally come out with a mirrorless FF camera.... Perhaps I shall wait until then....

It is becoming one of those features that consumers demand, both the high end shooters who do weddings and production work, and the "masses" who are shooting little league, soccer, and birthday parties. I would even argue that it is a more important feature to have in the Rebels than the higher end bodies.... Most of the time Canon gets things right, but this time I think that they got it wrong.