Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

[Bernard]

Broadcasters are looking at contribution HEVC bit rates of 70-80 Mb/s, and DTH of 25-30. So if you can do 80Mb/s HEVC UHD then that is good enough for broadcasters, so it should be good enough for us.

H265 is an output CODEC. It's fine to use after you've done all your editing and grading and colour correction and compositing, etc. It's not good for acquisition.
It's the same thing as RAW vs. JPEG for stills. JPEG is fine as a display format, but it's not flexible enough for shooting. It's too brittle. You can't manipulate the image without throwing-out a lot of information.

 

[Mikehit]

Someone probably snarkily asked "What camera does that?" when someone suggested they wanted their high resolution photos immediately. Fortunately people with vision were'nt so snarky.

I asked that question. If there is a camera that does it all then fine. If there is not a camera that does it all then you have to ask why - and the most obvious reason is that different companies prioritise different things. I wonder if the people complaining about Canons 'unwillingness' to provide full 4k video go onto Sony forums and complain about the things Sony don't do well?
They may reply 'but I don't own Sony, I own Canon and want them to give me the good things Sony provide'. Fair enough as a wishlist, but when you buy into a system you are also buying into their sense of priorities and if their priorities are no longer the same as yours then you have a choice. By all means state what you would like to see but don't stay with Canon then whine about 'nerfing' and 'crippling' and 'protecting their higher models'.
People have complained that the 5DIV us too expensive, especially without 4K. Well, if Canon put 4K into it they would charge even more in which case those people would not buy it anyway. Tough life, ain't it.

 

[Ozarker]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

 

[rrcphoto]

e-ink hasn't improved in ages. it's the same techology has it's always been. it's simply getting a higher dot pitch. it still has to erase the entire screen on a change.

.. seriously.. nice try really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2V9iuTW3sA

and it looks absolutely horrid. same as it's always been.

 

[Nininini]

e-ink hasn't improved in ages. it's the same techology has it's always been. it's simply getting a higher dot pitch. it still has to erase the entire screen on a change.

.. seriously.. nice try really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2V9iuTW3sA

and it looks absolutely horrid. same as it's always been.

Looks fine to me.

Outside in sunlight it looks miles better than OLED or LCD.

OLED and LCD are great for TV sets that are shielded from environmental light, they are terrible in sunlight. E Ink remains perfectly readable in sunlight.

 

[LonelyBoy]

Derail the conversation all you want, but 4K is like power steering in cars, it's expected and it's useful. Maybe stills is all you need, but more creative people want to expand and branch out, and you certainly seem to resent anyone who expects more. The future dream is 8K, 4K is not extraordinary, except of course to hard-nosed photo-only purists.

If only you had the vaguest idea how much I loved having no power steering on my old Civic. Seriously.

 

[EduPortas]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

 

[bdunbar79]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

Another statement based on zero facts and zero statistics. For some reason many on here just absolutely hate data.

 

[Don Haines]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

Yes, thousands are leaving, but millions are staying and an undetermined number are coming....

To make it personal, I want 4K, I am unwilling to pay for a 5D4, I will get a 6D2 anyway and still be happy....

 

[scyrene]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

Lol!

 

[Ozarker]

This a premium camera. It should have 4k.

Otherwise, I don't see any reason to move from an original 6D to this second model.

We'll see. Hope the rumors are wrong in this case.

"I don't see any reason..." -- You are kidding I assume! Or may I assume you have not used a 6D?
I love the image quality of my 6D and I am 95+% stills -- I have better video solutions.
The REAL reason to upgrade is the focus system. 11 points versus 45 points is HUGE for stills photographers. If they make it easier to select the points (my 70D was far better than the 6D in this regard) I'll order on day One.

I did in fact own a 6D for about a year. Produced paid work with it. Even today, I consider

it a very good camera. Those eleven AF point were enough because I never intended to use it for sports.

And no one can deny that it has superb low light capabilities and ergonomics.

I don't consider a better AF system a reason to upgrade on this particular camera.

Now if it were to have an upgraded AF module, DPAF, and 4K it would be a no brainer. But Canon, apparently, force

you to choose the more expensive 5D model to get them all in one package.

As another person said before it's "pay to play" in Canonland.

Um... it is "pay to play" everywhere. Always has been. Always will be. Canon doesn't force anyone to do anything.

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

Because the other brands don't have the "pay to play" business model. :

Besides, Canon eats their lunch every single day. Like I said: It is "pay to play" everywhere... including over at Sony, Nikon, Fuji, etc... None of these threatens Canon's market share. None.

So, when are you going to jump ship? Answer: Never.

 

[Don Haines]

None of these threatens Canon's market share. None.

So, when are you going to jump ship? Answer: Never

Actually, they all threaten Canon's market share..... just like the toy poodle down the road threatens me when I walk past..... And Canon is probably just as intimidated

 

[Loswr]

You are correct. And that's why thousands of buyers are fragmenting to other brands.

I just knew there was a logical reason that Canon has been gaining even more market share and further cementing their position as ILC market leader. Thanks for clarifying!!

 

[tr573]

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Wow...clairvoyant, and you speak for everyone. Well, aren't you special. :

Clairvoyant? Smartphones have had 4k for several years now. It's standard on any mid to highend phone.

Nothing to do clairvoyance. 4k is now the standard.

To be fair, you said everyone with a phone is "shooting" 4k, not "has access to" 4k.

Personally my phone is set to 1080p still because I don't need 4k video clips of my kids doing dumb kid stuff eating all the space on it.

 

[LonelyBoy]

To be fair, you said everyone with a phone is "shooting" 4k, not "has access to" 4k.

Personally my phone is set to 1080p still because I don't need 4k video clips of my kids doing dumb kid stuff eating all the space on it.

I've shot 0s of footage on my current phone. Maybe a minute on my previous phone. That, I believe, is the total of my "videography".

 

[Loswr]

Everyone with an iPhone or newer Android phone is shooting 4k.

Wow...clairvoyant, and you speak for everyone. Well, aren't you special. :

Clairvoyant? Smartphones have had 4k for several years now. It's standard on any mid to highend phone.

Nothing to do clairvoyance. 4k is now the standard.

To be fair, you said everyone with a phone is "shooting" 4k, not "has access to" 4k.

Personally my phone is set to 1080p still because I don't need 4k video clips of my kids doing dumb kid stuff eating all the space on it.

No, you're wrong. Nini speaks for everyone, and Nini says everyone shoots 4K. Therefore you do, and so do I. Even if we don't.

 

[Nininini]

To be fair, you said everyone with a phone is "shooting" 4k, not "has access to" 4k.

Ok fine, you knew what I meant, the point is that 4k is omnipresent on smartphones and is the new video standard.

(and let's not pretend smartphones are not related to the ILC market, most video being shot right now is being shot on a smartphone, smartphones and online distribution platforms like youtube and netflix are in fact determining the codec and distribution standards for video in 2017)

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

It is incredibly hard to justify what canon is doing leaving out 4k on brand new cameras. And not just on the 6D, the 80D doesn't have it, new 7D will probably not have it, none of the rebels have it.

It's especially annoying for people because these cameras are expensive, and aren't refreshed yearly like smartphones.

If you're still stuck with that 6D Mark II in 2020, where everyone and their mom is shooting in 4k, you're going to look back on your camera and really be disappointed if you need to shoot any video. You'll also have a really hard time if you ever need to resell your camera.

If canon was using the full sensor for video canon might have an excuse, but they are cropping and line skipping, there is no excuse for leaving out 4k.

 

[Luds34]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Please don't confuse the "latest greatest tech" with "the current standard". The compact disk was invented in the 70's. It became the standard more then 25 years later.

You want 4k, great, but stop calling it the standard. It is clearly not "the standard" anywhere. It's become nauseating. A thread on the 6D2 has turned into how we all can't live without 4k content in our lives. I truly question how many of you "can't live without 4k" folks actually ever leave the house and shoot (stills or video). Or gasp, what did you do a few years ago, pre 4k days... did you just choose not to create any content at all?

 

[Ozarker]

To be fair, you said everyone with a phone is "shooting" 4k, not "has access to" 4k.

Ok fine, you knew what I meant, the point is that 4k is omnipresent on smartphones and is the new video standard.

(and let's not pretend smartphones are not related to the ILC market, most video being shot right now is being shot on a smartphone, smartphones and online distribution platforms like youtube and netflix are in fact determining the codec and distribution standards for video in 2017)

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

It is incredibly hard to justify what canon is doing leaving out 4k on brand new cameras. And not just on the 6D, the 80D doesn't have it, new 7D will probably not have it, none of the rebels have it.

It's especially annoying for people because these cameras are expensive, and aren't refreshed yearly like smartphones.

If you're still stuck with that 6D Mark II in 2020, where everyone and their mom is shooting in 4k, you're going to look back on your camera and really be disappointed if you need to shoot any video. You'll also have a really hard time if you ever need to resell your camera.

If canon was using the full sensor for video canon might have an excuse, but they are cropping and line skipping, there is no excuse for leaving out 4k.

Here's what you want. Now shut up. https://www.adorama.com/ptonebs40.html

 

[Nininini]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Do you want me to do a comparison between the influence of companies pushing 4k:

-Youtube / Android / Google
-Apple
-Sony
-Microsoft Xbox One X
-Samsung
-Netflix
-Amazon Prime
-Nvidia
-AMD

And traditional media like TV channels?