Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

[dak723]

So the forum experts have declared the 6DII Dead on Arrival because it might not have 4K video.

The same 'experts' have declared each new Canon camera DoA before they were each announced.

Yes. I remember all the wailing when the 6D was introduced. Didn't stop it from becoming Amazon's best selling full frame camera though, did it?

Well, there you go. Living on past laurels. Didn't that work out well for Blackberry, who dominated the world cell phone market and is now all but extinct; and Nortel, who shared the world network switching market with Cisco, but is now bankrupt.

Your competitors don't sleep. They want to eat your lunch.

Show us your evidence that Canon is 'sleeping'. Note that not providing a feature that you think they should doesn't constitute 'evidence'. Canon sells more ILCs than anyone else. That's not past, that's current.

In 2016, Canon was granted the third most US patents of any company (3,665 of them)...that's more than Intel, Microsoft, Apple, or Google. That's planning for the future.

But hey, you think the 6DII should have 4K. If it doesn't, Canon is doomed. Yeah, your logic is impeccable. I bet you won a lot of debate club competitions. :

Derail the conversation all you want, but 4K is like power steering in cars, it's expected and it's useful. Maybe stills is all you need, but more creative people want to expand and branch out, and you certainly seem to resent anyone who expects more. The future dream is 8K, 4K is not extraordinary, except of course to hard-nosed photo-only purists.

Yes, 4K is like power steering in cars...except my power steering doesn't overheat my car and my power steering isn't limited to only a few minutes of use at a time. So, in other words, no real comparison.

Implying that you need 4K or the latest technology in order to be creative clearly indicates that you have no idea what creativity is all about. Just admit that you want the latest technology because that's what you are interested in. Which is fine. But don't insult those of us who disagree with you and insinuate that it has anything to do with creativity - it does not.

 

[Loswr]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Cable/satellite television? Blu-Ray? DVD (which still outsells Blu-Ray)? Good to know that 4K is the standard.

It is incredibly hard to justify what canon is doing leaving out 4k on brand new cameras. And not just on the 6D, the 80D doesn't have it, new 7D will probably not have it, none of the rebels have it.

What's with this fixation you have on a need to justify things? I don't have to justify Canon's choices, and for damn sure they don't. They pick the features to include. Customers choose to buy the cameras, or not. It's that simple. So far, customers continue to choose Canon over all other brands. If that changes, feel free to come back and say, "I told you so." I'm still waiting for the DRones to say that, but they've been oddly silent in that regard. Maybe you'll have better luck, or maybe you'll end up looking just as foolish.

 

[Nininini]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Cable/satellite television? DVD (which still outsells Blu-Ray)?

 

[Nininini]

DVD btw? just how deep in denial are you

DVD is 480p, are you recording stuff in 480p?

of all users on this forum, you never make any sense whatsoever

 

[lgn55063]

I have been reading comments sorted from all backgrounds, amateur and professional levels for a few years now. I love photographing stills of ballroom dancing. I have been using crop cameras for several years and am looking forward to my first full-frame format camera. I am considering the 6DMarkII camera, if it comes with at least 6 fps. When I want videos, I use a Canon portable video camera. Can someone please explain why 4k is so important in a "stills" camera? Thank you.

 

[Nininini]

When I want videos, I use a Canon portable video camera.

Can someone please explain why 4k is so important in a "stills" camera?

I had to actually look up what a "Canon portable video camera" means.

Last time I saw a camcorder out in the wild was probably 10 years ago.

I hope that answers your question.

 

[TeT]

Don't know which is worse, this Nininini guy or the PPL who shoot in the dark underexposed and bump the exposure to compare images...

 

[lgn55063]

Yes the portable video camera is older, like I am, but both of us can still "work it.." and have not had any complaints.. : I also shoot video using my cell phone..(current age android!)...

 

[Nininini]

Yes the portable video camera is older, like I am, but both of us can still "work it.." and have not had any complaints.. : I also shoot video using my cell phone..(current age android!)...

That's great, but the reality is that camcorders no longer sell, and cameras haven't been "stills cameras" like you call them, in ages. They are used for still, and just as much for video.

In fact the biggest market for DSLR isn't even stills, it's youtubers. Canon specifically markets to vloggers / youtubers.

Those people are not buying camcorders, they don't care about camcorders, most of them wouldn't even know what a camcorder is.

The world has changed my friend, ILC haven't been "stills cameras" in a long time. They are stills+video.

And many people within Canon get it, but many people within Canon do not. They didn't understand why people wanted WiFi, they didn't understand why people wanted flippy screens, they don't understand why people want 120fps, why they want 4k, why they want online sharing, they do.not.get.it.

Especially their division in Japan didn't get it. Some at Canon are starting to get it, but many of their old upper management is still completely ignorant about what is going on in this fast moving world.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/explore/video-creator-kits

 

[Nininini]

Don't know which is worse, this Nininini guy or the PPL who shoot in the dark underexposed and bump the exposure to compare images...

I think people like you who are stuck in the past are actually the worst. It's people like you who ran kodak and nokia into the ground.

People with no vision and awareness about tech whatsoever. People who still think DVD and DVD resolution are sufficient. (the ignorance about video in this thread is plain ridiculous)

Thank God tech companies ignore people like you, and thank God some at Canon have started to change, it's a shame that Canon still has an upper management filled wtih people like you, with no vision whatsoever, stuck in the past.

 

[mclaren777]

Not having 4K is a bummer, but I'm personally more upset that it isn't 2.7K with an MJPEG codec like the 5D4.

 

[Don Haines]

Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

 

[TeT]

Don't know which is worse, this Nininini guy or the PPL who shoot in the dark underexposed and bump the exposure to compare images...

I think people like you who are stuck in the past are actually the worst. ....

I made no comment about any tech past present or future. I simply stated that I find you to be annoying and wondered out loud as to how annoying you actually were, now I know.

 

[Don Haines]

Also, even if you intend to display at 2K, it is nice to shoot at a higher resolution (2.7K) and then through software, do a "steadycam" to the video and crop it to 2K.... gives a lot smoother results, particularly if you are shooting from a canoe

 

[Nininini]

Don't know which is worse, this Nininini guy or the PPL who shoot in the dark underexposed and bump the exposure to compare images...

I think people like you who are stuck in the past are actually the worst. ....

I made no comment about any tech past present or future. I simply stated that I find you to be annoying and wondered out loud as to how annoying you actually were, now I know.

It has nothing to do with that. You don't like what I write.

You've said in the past that you never shoot video on your cameras, that you don't get youtube videos, that you don't get unboxing videos.

You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

 

[privatebydesign]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Do you want me to do a comparison between the influence of companies pushing 4k:

-Youtube / Android / Google
-Apple
-Sony
-Microsoft Xbox One X
-Samsung
-Netflix
-Amazon Prime
-Nvidia
-AMD

And traditional media like TV channels?

Half those companies are not 'pushing' 4K, they are reluctantly accepting and playing along to a false narrative. 4K capture might make a lot of sense for some people, for most people delivery, distribution, editing, storage, bandwidth and available options are simply years away. That is simply a fact.

For instance very few shows are available on Netflix in 4k and those that are cost more, even if you have the cable bandwidth to watch it, which most people don't.

Or Apple, the 4th generation (current) Apple TV does not even support 4k.

YouTube might have 4k and 8K options, very few people can stream them.

4k is being foist upon us by tv manufacturers as the new big thing, minutes after 3D/1080/720 was the new big thing, nobody is keeping up with 4k tv's which have less than 20% market penetration in the USA anyway. So apart from the fact that very few people can download the rare sources of 4k only 20% have the ability to view it! To say it is essential in anything at this time is entirely fallacious. Yes it will gradually take over, but not for years in many of the forms we currently view video. Don't forget the bigger push is on demand tv and that is entirely at the whim of internet delivery companies which are years and years behind the bandwidth needed for reliable widespread 4k delivery.

 

[unfocused]

Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

You are overlooking the life cycle. Sure, many new buyers are probably buying 4K, although Best Buy wouldn't be carrying 23 models of 720p tvs if they weren't selling them. But how often does the average consumer replace their tv. I'm not talking about forum nerds, I'm talking about average Joe. Average Joe doesn't replace his tv until the old one breaks, so even after all 720p and 2k tvs quit being sold, they will still be a big part of the market, likely the majority for years to come.

 

[rrcphoto]

You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

and yet you do.. a forum warrior knows the global market better than multi-billion dollar companies that make it their business to know what their clients want in far more greater detail then you ever could.

Got it.

 

[Nininini]

-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Do you want me to do a comparison between the influence of companies pushing 4k:

-Youtube / Android / Google
-Apple
-Sony
-Microsoft Xbox One X
-Samsung
-Netflix
-Amazon Prime
-Nvidia
-AMD

And traditional media like TV channels?

Half those companies are not 'pushing' 4K

name them

 

[rrcphoto]

Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

the 1080 and 720p models that are dirt cheap and they can afford and can't tell the difference with anyways.