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Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

Don Haines said:
Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

There is a ton of better than 1080P content out there now. A lot of network stuff and broadcast TV as well. gee whiz is right
 
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rrcphoto said:
Nininini said:
You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

and yet you do.. a forum warrior knows the global market better than multi-billion dollar companies that make it their business to know what their clients want in far more greater detail then you ever could.

Got it.

Yeah, because those "billion dollar" Japanese zombie companies are doing so great. How many of those Japanese companies are on the verge of bankruptcy at his moment?

Who is going to buy up Toshiba's chip division again?

Oh...it's tech companies who realize the importance of a connected world and aren't stuck in the past. Apple and Amazon.

6 years in a row of decreasing ILC sales for Japanese ILC manufacturers, in a world of youtube and netflix with massive amounts of video content being created. What a great result.

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Don Haines said:
Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

top selling tv's in amazon:

1. 720p
2. 1080p
3. 4k
4. 4k
5. 720p
6. 1080p
7. 720p
8. 1080p
9. 720p
10. 720p

50% 720p
30% 1080p
20% 4K

that seems to match up with some other adaptation statistics that someone else brought up earlier.
 
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Nininini said:
rrcphoto said:
Nininini said:
You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

and yet you do.. a forum warrior knows the global market better than multi-billion dollar companies that make it their business to know what their clients want in far more greater detail then you ever could.

Got it.

Yeah, because those "billion dollar" Japanese zombie companies are doing so great. How many of those Japanese companies are on the verge of bankruptcy at his moment?

and your point is?

you sit here and claim you know the industry .. okay.. where's your CV?

you know the global market. really? you sure?

pretty arrogant of you. I doubt you even have a clue about your own native market let alone the global market.
 
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Nininini said:
TeT said:
Nininini said:
TeT said:
Don't know which is worse, this Nininini guy or the PPL who shoot in the dark underexposed and bump the exposure to compare images...

I think people like you who are stuck in the past are actually the worst. ....


I made no comment about any tech past present or future. I simply stated that I find you to be annoying and wondered out loud as to how annoying you actually were, now I know.

It has nothing to do with that. You don't like what I write.

You've said in the past that you never shoot video on your cameras, that you don't get youtube videos, that you don't get unboxing videos.

You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

I don't shoot video because I suck at it and enjoy taking pictures. I don't get unboxing videos because I think taking a video of oneself unpacking something is ridiculous. Youtube is fine, especially if you are looking for how to do something. (don't recall in what context I dissed Youtube)

I do understand the market, I don't have a problem with what you write, I just find your delivery annoying.

It is ok to be annoying. I certainly am. I was just pointing it out.
 
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rrcphoto said:
Nininini said:
You don't understand the market, that's your problem. Not mine.

and yet you do.. a forum warrior knows the global market better than multi-billion dollar companies that make it their business to know what their clients want in far more greater detail then you ever could.

Got it.

Well, what did you expect. It's all in the name, and the homophone can't disguise it.

nin·ny ˈninē/ noun informal: a foolish person.
 
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Nininini said:
privatebydesign said:
Nininini said:
Luds34 said:
Nininini said:
-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Do you want me to do a comparison between the influence of companies pushing 4k:

-Youtube / Android / Google
-Apple
-Sony
-Microsoft Xbox One X
-Samsung
-Netflix
-Amazon Prime
-Nvidia
-AMD

And traditional media like TV channels?

Half those companies are not 'pushing' 4K

name them

I did. Learn to read.
 
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unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

You are overlooking the life cycle. Sure, many new buyers are probably buying 4K, although Best Buy wouldn't be carrying 23 models of 720p tvs if they weren't selling them. But how often does the average consumer replace their tv. I'm not talking about forum nerds, I'm talking about average Joe. Average Joe doesn't replace his tv until the old one breaks, so even after all 720p and 2k tvs quit being sold, they will still be a big part of the market, likely the majority for years to come.

No, I am not overlooking the life cycle. I have absolutely no doubt that the vast majority of televisions in homes right now are 2K..... What I said (according to the CRTC, in Canada 4K is 80 to 90 percent of sales) is that people are now buying mostly 4K models....
 
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Nininini said:
DVD btw? just how deep in denial are you

DVD is 480p, are you recording stuff in 480p?

of all users on this forum, you never make any sense whatsoever

Revenue from DVD sales is vastly larger than revenue from all 4K content, regardless of delivery medium. I'm sorry that facts don't make sense to you.
 
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Don Haines said:
I have absolutely no doubt that the vast majority of televisions in homes right now are 2K..... What I said (and industry sales numbers back this up, depending on the source 4K is 80 to 90 percent of sales) is that people are now buying mostly 4K models....

And replete native 4K content to display on those TVs will come. Eventually. Just like 4K will come to all levels of Canon ILCs. Eventually.

Hmmmm...I just thought of something. Maybe those two facts aren't entirely unrelated?? Whaddyathink?!?
 
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Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

You are overlooking the life cycle. Sure, many new buyers are probably buying 4K, although Best Buy wouldn't be carrying 23 models of 720p tvs if they weren't selling them. But how often does the average consumer replace their tv. I'm not talking about forum nerds, I'm talking about average Joe. Average Joe doesn't replace his tv until the old one breaks, so even after all 720p and 2k tvs quit being sold, they will still be a big part of the market, likely the majority for years to come.

No, I am not overlooking the life cycle. I have absolutely no doubt that the vast majority of televisions in homes right now are 2K..... What I said (according to the CRTC, in Canada 4K is 80 to 90 percent of sales) is that people are now buying mostly 4K models....

Of course there is also the question of how many people are paying the up charge to get 4K content. Many of those 4K tv buyers are probably streaming shows at lower resolution.
 
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Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Checked the listings of TVs at Best buy

4K - 203 models
2K - 83 models
720p - 23 models

gee whiz Batman, I wonder what resolution of TV most people are buying.......

You are overlooking the life cycle. Sure, many new buyers are probably buying 4K, although Best Buy wouldn't be carrying 23 models of 720p tvs if they weren't selling them. But how often does the average consumer replace their tv. I'm not talking about forum nerds, I'm talking about average Joe. Average Joe doesn't replace his tv until the old one breaks, so even after all 720p and 2k tvs quit being sold, they will still be a big part of the market, likely the majority for years to come.

No, I am not overlooking the life cycle. I have absolutely no doubt that the vast majority of televisions in homes right now are 2K..... What I said (according to the CRTC, in Canada 4K is 80 to 90 percent of sales) is that people are now buying mostly 4K models....

well canada is a pretty small market .. worldwide:
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4K is still not anywhere close to the shipment totals of the other formats

not to mention all the other non 4k tv's that were already purchased and still being purchased.
 
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Nininini said:
I think people like you who are stuck in the past are actually the worst. It's people like you who ran kodak and nokia into the ground.

Not the first time you've brought up Nokia and Kodak. The thing is, those are examples of companies failing to anticipate and react to a paradigm shift.

Flip phone → Smartphone

Film → Digital

480 → 720 → 1080 → 2K → 4K → 8K →

Sorry, I'm unable to spot the paradigm shift on that last line. Can you point it out to me, please?
 
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Nininini said:
Luds34 said:
Nininini said:
-4k video recording is the standard on every mid to high-end smartphone
-4k is the standard for all new TV
-4k is the main selling points of the latest consoles
-4k is supported by the biggest video distribution sites like youtube and netflix

1080p no longer is the standard

Easy there on the "standard". I know you hip, cool, kids really like the interwebs and all, but last I checked "the standard", broadcast television isn't there yet.

Do you want me to do a comparison between the influence of companies pushing 4k:

-Youtube / Android / Google
-Apple
-Sony
-Microsoft Xbox One X
-Samsung
-Netflix
-Amazon Prime
-Nvidia
-AMD

And traditional media like TV channels?
Hi,
Many companies are pushing 4K, why? Because they can and want you to buy their products even you don't need or unable to take advantage of it.... you know this is what salesman best at. :-P

I can see movie/tv production might need it, but for average consumer, they might not see the difference... unless they normally watch their video up close.

Anyway, this 4k vs 1080p is the new megapixel war... :-P

Have a nice day.

PS: I recently bought a sennheiser headphone and I thought the sound quality will improve greatly when compared to my cheaper philips earpiece, but the improvement is not that obvious... ::)
 
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unfocused said:
So, it sounds like the only complaints about the 6D II will be the lack of 4K and the absence of a second card slot. If that's the case, it will be much better received than the original 6D and could actually eclipse the 6D in sales if the price is reasonable.

Haven't you been paying attention to these threads? Without 4K, dual card slots, and more AF points than there are stars in the sky, the 6DII is dead. Just plain dead.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Don Haines said:
I have absolutely no doubt that the vast majority of televisions in homes right now are 2K..... What I said (and industry sales numbers back this up, depending on the source 4K is 80 to 90 percent of sales) is that people are now buying mostly 4K models....

And replete native 4K content to display on those TVs will come. Eventually. Just like 4K will come to all levels of Canon ILCs. Eventually.

Hmmmm...I just thought of something. Maybe those two facts aren't entirely unrelated?? Whaddyathink?!?
You could be right...... eventually :)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
So, it sounds like the only complaints about the 6D II will be the lack of 4K and the absence of a second card slot. If that's the case, it will be much better received than the original 6D and could actually eclipse the 6D in sales if the price is reasonable.

Haven't you been paying attention to these threads? Without 4K, dual card slots, and more AF points than there are stars in the sky, the 6DII is dead. Just plain dead.

The dual card slots, I couldn't care less about... if they are there, I will use them, if not, meh......

AF points? 11 sucks! 65 is pie in the sky and is not going to happen. Anything in the 30-40 range would be a good number to expect.....

4K? My opinion is that it is about time, but what I really want to see is 2.7K. Everything shoots 2K or better... A camera at the level of the 6D2 should be able to do better than a rebel or a P/S.... I am hoping that when the real specs come out, 2.7K will be there.....
 
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unfocused said:
So, it sounds like the only complaints about the 6D II will be the lack of 4K and the absence of a second card slot. If that's the case, it will be much better received than the original 6D and could actually eclipse the 6D in sales if the price is reasonable.

I love it, and that's the irony. As "awful" as the current 6D is/was spec wise, somehow it manage to sell a heck of a lot of copies. There seems to be a lot of buzz on this next iteration... aka maybe it is poised to sell well too???

Maybe... just maybe a camera is more than a spec sheet. I know I know, crazy talk. Like maybe the difference between 1/4000 and 1/8000 max shutter speed is one of those things that in the real world of shooting (heaven forbid folks actually take pictures with cameras and not argue specsmanship on the interwebs) doesn't matter 99.9% of the time.

In anycase, easy/careful there with rational, common sense comments. They have no place on this forum. ;)
 
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