Updated Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications [CR2]

[Skywise]

As a Canon 6D owner and use it to shoot a good chunk of video - While the new sensor may be good the DPAF is making me think of upgrading.

I wonder if they're planning on adding a stereo mic similar to the rebel line now. (I have a Rode Stereo mic I use but it'd be nice to not always have to get that setup/carry it around)

 

[Ozarker]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. If every person will shoot 4k with entry level cameras where is the evidence? There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

How many entry level FF buyers are going to have A. a 4k or higher display and B. A machine fast enough to edit the footage. Affordable 4k displays have only been available for about 12 months.

Its a small percentage.

January 2017 screen resolution statistics show that 1366x768 which accounts for 35% of consumers.

In second place is 1920x1080 with 17%, 1440x900 6%, 2560x1440 1%

Higher resolutions account for 6%.

This is probably the reason Canon has decided against 4k its just not popular enough in the target audience. The majority of people have 1080 displays. This camera isn't aimed toward pro video shooters its aimed at enthusiast photographers.

It boils down to this, Tom. They have champagne taste and a beer budget. They want a Cinema camera that also takes stills for $2k or under. Then they want to compare such a rig to an iPhone's output. They want a cool running Ferrari for the price of a Ford with overheating problems.

To top it all off they just want to complain and act as though they are the market and know what is best for Canon. Them personally. Forget the fact that Canon must turn a profit. They just want what they want, but aren't able or willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter that the camera might not be reliable due to overheating. It doesn't matter that the thing won't be weather sealed because it has to vent the heat to somewhere. They are "artists" and demand the best video of fluffy they can get without forking over the money to do it.

These whiners are always there. They think $2,000 is a king's ransom and demand to have the king of all rigs for it. They are just plain silly people. Silly, tantrum throwing children.

 

[Don Haines]

So the forum experts have declared the 6DII Dead on Arrival because it might not have 4K video.

The same 'experts' have declared each new Canon camera DoA before they were each announced.

If it isn't superior to the 1DX2 and D5 in every conceivable way, then it means Canon is doomed! I won't like it or want it, but Canon's marketing people (they use Jedi mind tricks) will talk me into buying one.... It will have inferior AF, an inferior sensor (anything below 20 stops of DR is unusable), and will not write to dual cards.... I will hate it, yet for some inexplicable reason, I will carry it with me every day and despite the severe limitations of the camera, I will still use it to try and take pictures, despite knowing that if I had gotten a D750 that all would be well.... OH WOE IS ME!!!!!!!

 

[amorse]

...For me, I'd be even happier if they removed video entirely from the 6D and reduced the price! Why does every product need to be everything to everyone?...

Oh Noooo!!!! Not that discussion again!!! Maybe I can short-circuit it: Removing video won't reduce costs. It increases the cost because any added expense is minimal and more than offset by the increased sales.

Certainly understood that removing video wouldn't reduce the price - to be clear, I was being facetious in my previous post. My point is 4K video (and video in general) isn't important to at least some DLSR buyers, and obviously canon seems to agree with that sentiment if they feel that they can release a "premium" product without 4K today when competing cameras have it. Since Canon is the one investing money to determine what the market wants, I'm inclined to think it is a conscious decision not to include 4K based on what they think will sell.

 

[rrcphoto]

The biggest question I have for the 6D II is dynamic range, low light performance, and weather sealing. If those are on par with (or better than!) the 5D IV then I'd be very likely to buy the 6DII (maybe wishful thinking).

2 out of 3 maybe. it wont' have the same weathersealing.

 

[jmoya]

seriously... no 4k! my dji mavic pro has 4k and it freaking flys in the sky. What a joke!

 

[Don Haines]

seriously... no 4k! my dji mavic pro has 4k and it freaking flys in the sky. What a joke!

Yes, but it has 4 large cooling fans.......

 

[RandomRazr]

Is it not possible that they left 4K out of the 6D since (from my very limited understanding) the lower resolution of the 6D II's sensor relative to the 5D IV could result in the 6D II having a better crop ratio? That could make the 6D's 4K look superior to the 5D IV? (honest question).

I have a 6D and I don't think I have ever even switched it into video mode. For me, I'd be even happier if they removed video entirely from the 6D and reduced the price! Why does every product need to be everything to everyone?

The biggest question I have for the 6D II is dynamic range, low light performance, and weather sealing. If those are on par with (or better than!) the 5D IV then I'd be very likely to buy the 6DII (maybe wishful thinking).

why woud they make the 6D II better at anything then the 5D IV in your theory of specs? that makes no sense in ur head?

 

[Dvash7]

Wow, at this point I hope it doesn't have video at all just so you 4K freaks would blow a gasket!

 

[masterpix]

I am amazed at difficulty Canon has offering 4K compared to other manufacturers.
It doesn't rule this camera out for me, but 4K is expected today, it's not a headline feature.
Within a year the third iteration of the Sony A7s and A7r will likely be out, and they will both likely feature:

On sensor AF to rival Canon's DPAF
IBIS
Really good 4K
High frame rate 1080p
Amazing low light performance
and much more

The A7S II and A7R II are highly praised, and version III will of course be better. Canon should have something to line up against this, but they don't seem interested. Sure the 6D2 isn't intended to go up against the A7's, but omitting 4K signals disdain for the reality of todays expectations... expectations of which the other manufacturers seem more attuned toward.

I believe that is the 5Dmk4 is for. it is like the Rebel vs the XXD or the 7D, wonderful cameras but lesser features for the lesser price. Unlike Sony, Canon offers several "levels" of cameras to suite everyone needs (as Nikon also does by the way)

 

[Don Haines]

why woud they make the 6D II better at anything then the 5D IV in your theory of specs?

With sensors, the tech is continuously evolving, albeit at a slower rate now.... as a general rule, the latest release has the best tech and therefore, the best sensor. Some notable examples of this have been when the 60D came out with a better sensor than the 7D, and the 80D with a better sensor than the 7D2, and the 6D with a better sensor than the 5D2... Of course, the sensor is only one component and the higher models usually have better AF, frame rates, sealing, ergonomics, etc....

 

[wildwalker]

Just reading the supposed specification again.

The spec includes HDR. Sooooo what flavour of HDR would that be, and will there be a premium for having this function?

Don't you need C-Log for HDR on the 5D? Or does it support HLG or PQ10 out of the box?

 

[Jerryrigged]

Canon can release anything they want, and buyers have lots of options. For me personally, I have a 5D4, two 6Ds, and a Sony A6500. I've mostly shot photography, but recently started shooting wedding video. I'm still probably 70% Photo, and 30% video. So, for me, the 5D4 is great, with awesome photo and video quality. I also use my 6Ds for some video, stationary on a tripod, with no need for autofocus. I really wanted a second or third camera - ideally a Canon camera that could make use of all my L glass. Unfortunately, it seemed the best option for me was the Sony A6500 (APSC). It shoots great 4K and 120 fps 1080p. I was thinking of maybe the 80D, but no 4K (not very future-proof), and APSC (prefer full-frame for photos). I would love to have a 6D that shot 4K with dual-pixel autofocus. It would have been a great complement for BOTH photo and video. I still might consider it given dual-pixel AF, and awesome photo quality. However, with no 4K, it would not be very future-proof.

 

[daphins]

I'm fine with no 4K. It SHOULD be available on a $2,000 camera, but it's not a deal breaker for me.

Canon seems to take the approach of quality over quantity. They're not going to give you the most camera for your money, but they'll give you the best camera for your money.

I'm fine with that.

 

[amorse]

Is it not possible that they left 4K out of the 6D since (from my very limited understanding) the lower resolution of the 6D II's sensor relative to the 5D IV could result in the 6D II having a better crop ratio? That could make the 6D's 4K look superior to the 5D IV? (honest question).

I have a 6D and I don't think I have ever even switched it into video mode. For me, I'd be even happier if they removed video entirely from the 6D and reduced the price! Why does every product need to be everything to everyone?

The biggest question I have for the 6D II is dynamic range, low light performance, and weather sealing. If those are on par with (or better than!) the 5D IV then I'd be very likely to buy the 6DII (maybe wishful thinking).

why woud they make the 6D II better at anything then the 5D IV in your theory of specs? that makes no sense in ur head?

No, I think there is certainly reason to believe that the 6D II will be better than the 5D IV in some areas, but the 5D IV is a more expensive/advanced product which means that it will obviously need a feature set to justify the higher price. How they choose to distinguish the two products is yet to be seen (other than 4K obviously), but I think we can take some cues between looking at the different feature set of the 5D III and 6D.

The 6D had better low light performance and better dynamic range than the 5D III and was released after the 5D III, so I don't think it is unreasonable to wonder if that could be the case here too. Weather sealing on par with a 5D IV is pretty unlikely, I'll admit, but that is the only key feature I really wish I could get from the 5D IV at the 6D price point with 6D features. Again, my needs aren't everyones needs so this is all wishful thinking.

 

[amorse]

The biggest question I have for the 6D II is dynamic range, low light performance, and weather sealing. If those are on par with (or better than!) the 5D IV then I'd be very likely to buy the 6DII (maybe wishful thinking).

2 out of 3 maybe. it wont' have the same weathersealing.

That's my thinking too - wishful thinking. I just hope the weather sealing isn't worse than the current 6D... my camera gets rained on pretty frequently and I'm alway a bit nervous about how much is too much...

 

[rrcphoto]

I'm fine with no 4K. It SHOULD be available on a $2,000 camera

I'm curious on this.
there's no $2000 full frame camera with 4K video right now, so why would a 6D Mark II which will probably be heavily discounted in it's lifetime SHOULD have it?

the A7III will probably have it, but it's a sony.. it doesn't really matter much and the way sony pricing is going, there's no guarantee it doesn't take a jump up in price.

the Pentax K1 is around $2000, it doesn't have 4K. the A7II doesn't. the D750/D610,etc don't have it.

future proofing? there's no such thing with camera technology. Not even your lenses are future proofed.

 

[amorse]

why woud they make the 6D II better at anything then the 5D IV in your theory of specs?

With sensors, the tech is continuously evolving, albeit at a slower rate now.... as a general rule, the latest release has the best tech and therefore, the best sensor. Some notable examples of this have been when the 60D came out with a better sensor than the 7D, and the 80D with a better sensor than the 7D2, and the 6D with a better sensor than the 5D2... Of course, the sensor is only one component and the higher models usually have better AF, frame rates, sealing, ergonomics, etc....

With sensors, the tech is continuously evolving, albeit at a slower rate now.... as a general rule, the latest release has the best tech and therefore, the best sensor. Some notable examples of this have been when the 60D came out with a better sensor than the 7D, and the 80D with a better sensor than the 7D2, and the 6D with a better sensor than the 5D2... Of course, the sensor is only one component and the higher models usually have better AF, frame rates, sealing, ergonomics, etc....
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I can't help but wonder if this will be true for the 6D II and 5D IV as well, and maybe this is one of the reasons the 6D II didn't get 4K. Comparing the two cameras the 6D II would have a bunch of advantages over the 5D IV such as: tilting screen, higher dynamic range, better low light performance, lower price... Add 4K with a better crop ratio to that mix and you could make the argument that the 6D may be a bit too competitive with the 5D IV market.

Obviously that is assuming that the 6D would have a better 4K crop ratio than the 5D IV - I was curious if this would be the case since the pixel density on the 6D II is less than that of the 5D IV. I was under the impression that the 5D IV didn't use the full sensor for 4K capture because it would be too processor intensive to capture that and convert it down to 4K from full sensor resolution. As a result I thought the 5D IV only used the centre of the sensor, and if the 6D II had the same system for 4K, having a lower resolution sensor could mean that the pixels used for capture were more spread out resulting in a lower crop factor. I have no idea if this was the case since I really don't use video - really just curious.

 

[transpo1]

Its funny how 4k is a deal breaker for so many people. If every person will shoot 4k with entry level cameras where is the evidence? There is still so little 4k content yet its been on the scene for 3 years.

How many entry level FF buyers are going to have A. a 4k or higher display and B. A machine fast enough to edit the footage. Affordable 4k displays have only been available for about 12 months.

Its a small percentage.

January 2017 screen resolution statistics show that 1366x768 which accounts for 35% of consumers.

In second place is 1920x1080 with 17%, 1440x900 6%, 2560x1440 1%

Higher resolutions account for 6%.

This is probably the reason Canon has decided against 4k its just not popular enough in the target audience. The majority of people have 1080 displays. This camera isn't aimed toward pro video shooters its aimed at enthusiast photographers.

It boils down to this, Tom. They have champagne taste and a beer budget. They want a Cinema camera that also takes stills for $2k or under. Then they want to compare such a rig to an iPhone's output. They want a cool running Ferrari for the price of a Ford with overheating problems.

To top it all off they just want to complain and act as though they are the market and know what is best for Canon. Them personally. Forget the fact that Canon must turn a profit. They just want what they want, but aren't able or willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter that the camera might not be reliable due to overheating. It doesn't matter that the thing won't be weather sealed because it has to vent the heat to somewhere. They are "artists" and demand the best video of fluffy they can get without forking over the money to do it.

These whiners are always there. They think $2,000 is a king's ransom and demand to have the king of all rigs for it. They are just plain silly people. Silly, tantrum throwing children.

Maybe us 4K folks just have higher standards than you guys. We understand you'll take everything Canon gives you and like it, but we tend to think a little bit differently.

Also, please see the earlier postings about how 4K acquisition is mostly used to create higher quality 1080p content. Since Canon is an imaging company, one would think they would want to put their best foot forward here.

 

[Luds34]

Is it not possible that they left 4K out of the 6D since (from my very limited understanding) the lower resolution of the 6D II's sensor relative to the 5D IV could result in the 6D II having a better crop ratio? That could make the 6D's 4K look superior to the 5D IV? (honest question).

That was the first thought that hit my mind when I first heard about the rough crop factor of the 5D4. One can only assume the 6D would be lower res and therefore could have a more reasonable crop factor. It would not surprise if that was a factor, but it certainly would not have been the driving reason.

I have a 6D and I don't think I have ever even switched it into video mode. For me, I'd be even happier if they removed video entirely from the 6D and reduced the price! Why does every product need to be everything to everyone?

The biggest question I have for the 6D II is dynamic range, low light performance, and weather sealing. If those are on par with (or better than!) the 5D IV then I'd be very likely to buy the 6DII (maybe wishful thinking).

I have an old M with an external mic, flash bracket, magic lantern, etc. for the few times I'm shooting some family home video stuff. However I've used the 6D in a pinch and have been reasonably happy with the results.

I don't think your questions are that big. Realistically we've seen the DR benefit with the latest sensors (80D, 5D4) etc, we can expect a similar bump on the new 6D2. Ditto on low light. Nothing ground breaking, but I'd expect an improvement, maybe as much as a half stop? Probably more along the lines that it will render noise better. And weather sealing? I can almost guarantee that will not change. I expect the same weather sealing, build quality of the current 6D and xxD line. What you are hoping for is reserved for the "pro" line (7D, 5D, 1D).