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Summary of my RF 200-800mm testing

I have now taken a couple of thousand images with charts and birds in the wild to test the RF 200-800mm on the R5 and some on the R7. This was both from sheer interest and for me to decide whether to keep the lens and if so which lens to use in various circumstances. Much has been posted in two threads: https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/rf-200-800mm-500mm-vs-800mm-etc-with-birds.43235/ and https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/t...-rf-100-500mm-vs-rf-800mm-on-r7-and-r5.43183/

After another 1000 shots in the past two days, comparing with the RF 800mm f/11 and with extenders, here is a brief, final summary of results with the R5.

At 500mm, it is as sharp as the RF100-500mm, and this outstanding sharpness continues through to about 600mm. The resolution of the lens increases until about 650mm, where it levels off at about 1.4x the resolution of the lens at 500mm (or the RF 100-500mm). This means in practice that you won’t resolve any more detail, like patterns of feathers, after zooming in to more than 650mm or so but you will see very small continuous objects, like the numbers in my charts, more clearly with less pixellation. Several reports have the lens somewhat soft at 800mm. This is true in that it is not revealing 800mm’s worth of data and it does need more sharpening. But, to put this in perspective, I find the lens at 800mm slightly sharper than the RF 800mm f/11, which is rated by opticallimits using Imatest as “Very Good” on the R5 and “Excellent” at 30 Mpx.

Adding the RF 1.4xTC to give 1120mm, hardly increases resolution, ~ 10%, with poorer AF. The RF 2xTC gives up to 25% extra resolution, with less accurate AF and a lot of sharpening required. Many more pixels are put in the subject and small objects can show up much more clearly.

As I have posted in the other threads, the AF at 800mm is relatively slow and not up to fast birds in flight. Zooming out to 500 or 600mm does transform it into a useful fast focussing lens. You don’t have to use this lens at 800mm. I suspect when the comparisons are done, it will be found to be as good as the excellent Sony 200-600mm where they overlap, with the bonus of an extra 200mm thrown in, probably better than a TC.

I am keeping it to complement my RF 100-500mm. The smaller lens is less tiring to carry and to hand hold, better for close-up shots, and of a very convenient size for packing for flights. And, I suspect it is more useful and better for BIF. 100-500mm is good enough for most of my needs. However, 800mm has proved useful in the past for distant birds.

Here are the latest charts. They are all taken at 16.7m and are 100% crops. They are just laser printed on standard A4 paper (in portrait orientation), not professional ones, and are stuck to the wall of my house, illuminated by a grey sky.
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RF 200-800mm: 500mm vs 800mm etc with Birds

I have been testing the RF 200-800mm with bird shots to see whether the 500-800mm range justifies the extra weight and bulk over the RF 100-500mm with the R5. @docsmith has provided some good exchanges in other threads and we seem to be in agreement with how focal length affects IQ and resolution. My original comparisons were directly with the RF 100-500mm.The RF 200-800mm at 500mm is as good as the RF 100-500mm and so to make things consistent I'll post some comparative images from just the RF 200-800mm at different focal lengths of compliant birds that stayed in the same place for long enough. You can draw your own conclusions, but here are mine in a nutshell.

For perched birds, the increase in resolution from 500-800mm is not that much, although more pixels are put on the image. It is easier at long distances for eyeAF to work for the longer lens, though at those distances a centre single point square is usually adequate. The consistency of focus is superb.

For Birds in Flight, 800mm was good for very slow flying birds at long distances, and the birdAF picked them out better against backgrounds. However, for close up ones, I find it difficult to keep them in frame and in the AF didn't seem to work fast enough to keep them in focus. Zooming out to 500 or 600mm did give me very good results.

As far as weight is concerned, I have no problems hiking with the lens on a sling, but holding it up at an angle was wearing for me.
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I have recently used the RF 100-500mm and RF Extender 2x combination on an R5 Body and find it is pointless adding the 2x Extender.
I can get better quality by increasing the focal length in Photoshop with the lens alone at 500mm f7.1 or 500mm f8.
I am guessing this is due to diffraction as I have tested this with several lenses and diffraction starts to occur at f11 with the R5 when viewing at 100%, but is not visible on a 30" monitor with the full frame.
It becomes obvious at f16 on the full image on this monitor.
This extender is designed to work with the 100-500mm, 600 f11 and 800 f11, and as it would make these last two lenses f22, severe softening would occur, again making the extender pointless.
Has anybody else come across these issues with the 2x extender.

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