Canon EOS M5 Coming Before Photokina [CR3]

Sounds perfect.
I mean, they could always screw up some random feature that you don't expect to go wrong (viewfinder, battery life, some random QC issue), but barring obscure flaws this looks like a well rounded base package.

I'll probably have one sooner or later, depending on cost (and it needs DPRAW).
 
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This was not on my radar!

I've had the original M for a little over 3 years now. It's a capable little camera that I like to take along when I'm not too serious about photography. I only own the 22/2.0 and the 11-22/4 IS, but they do well for me. I also own the EF adapter which I have never used except for the "hahaha, this looks weird on my 300mm" effect. ;D

Now ever since DPAF was announced in the 70D (mid-2013) I wanted the tech to go into the M-Line. But since then we've seen the M2, M3 and M10, and none of these brought the AF system up to speed (pun not intendend). Now, the prospect of getting 80D-style dynamic range and AF, plus an EVF...if they don't eff this up I'll definitely get one. Just a bit scared about the price...and I just ordered the 5D4. Canon seems to be doing everything right, at least my spending habits say so. ;D

I'll be utterly excited if they have the camera available for hands-on at Photokina, I'll be there the 21st.
 
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eosuser1234 said:
Could this offer the new global shutter Canon has been speaking of?
If so, it would make a big impact for Canon on the upper end of the mirrorless market.

If you mean global shutter, uh, no. If we're lucky we're going to see that tech in high-end video gear. It's not stills camera tech, at least not yet, and definitely not sub-$10k camera tech. And according to the rumor the M5 is going to use a 80D-like sensor. (global shutters are sensor tech!)
 
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Sharlin said:
asl said:
Hellish said:
4k! 4k! 4k!

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It all sounds good expect for the lack for 4K.

People please have a healthy meeting with reality. Totally unrealistic expectations will only result in disappointments (and blaming Canon instead of your overhyped irrational expectations).

I do not think 4K is too much to expect, whether it will happen is something else entirely.

The Sony RX100 Mark IV came out over 1 year ago and that has 4K. In fact it is probably still the best super compact camera on the market that can fit in your trouser pocket. If Canon could compete with those specs, doing away with the horrible Sony UI, and dare I say even improving on them, then Canon would be on to a winner.

Incidentally, and off topic, there have been almost no rumours of Sony making a RX100 Mark V.
 
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Sharlin said:
asl said:
Hellish said:
4k! 4k! 4k!

+1

It all sounds good expect for the lack for 4K.

People please have a healthy meeting with reality. Totally unrealistic expectations will only result in disappointments (and blaming Canon instead of your overhyped irrational expectations).

Don't worry :) I my self am pretty sure the M5 will not have 4K. (I would like to stick to canon gear, but realise it is not possible for what I want). Looking at the Canon line up it is unrealistic with 4K in M5. But looking the completion from other brands it is not that unrealistic that such camera could/should have had it. But it will not, I agree on that:)
 
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I don't regret getting the M3; I've gotten some really great shots from it! But looking at that list of specs kinda makes me feel that I want the M5. The M3's autofocus isn't terrible, but it hasn't been great either. It's not fast and doesn't always get the focus right. The continuous shooting for me has been terrible- I barely get 1 fps, much less 4 or 5. But at the same time, I have only tried one flashcard, so maybe that's the issue. It's a great little camera though. I'm a little sad because, whereas there was little chance of there being any more firmware updates, a true successor now makes that chance virtually zero.

My interest in the M5 is piqued, but unlike last time, I won't be an early adopter (if I become an adopter at all; the 5D4 is still my top priority). If they introduce it at a significantly marked up price, then I'll probably pass. But if it comes out at close to what the M3 was introduced at, I'll give it several months and some reviews before deciding.
 
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Another 4Ker here.

Much as I would like a Canon body on which to use my Canon lenses, without 4K it's a none starter.

It's an old chestnut, but for me I am not buying any more bodies that don't do 4K. I would have bought an 80D if it did.

I am loving the 4K that comes from my Sony RX10, and I am not going back now...

Post Photokina there is going to be a huge choice of very capable 4K bodies that don't cost a fortune. One of those will get my money. Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic.

The competitive bar has been raised. There's no longer any justification for Canon to release any more non-4K bodies except in the most basic entry level ones - but of course Canon doesn't need to justify anything, it can do as it pleases. (same goes for Nikon I guess)

I am at the point now where I want to replace my 70D, and if that means dumping my entire Canon system, then so be it. 5DIV is attractive, but more than I want to spend.

Of course, Canon might make the M5 so desirable even without 4K that I will have to eat my hat.
But somehow I doubt it will be as desirable as a Fuji XT2 for example.
(but then Canon's lens prices are so darn desirable...)
 
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preppyak said:
douglaurent said:
They should simply release a mirrorless 5D4 version and keep the EF mount!
The 6D is about as small a camera as you are gonna get with a full-frame EF mount. They could go smaller in places (like a 100D against the 750D), but, functionally it will not match the thin-ness of the A7 series. Just making it mirrorless doesnt magically make the camera smaller, EF mount has a 44mm flange, meaning the camera has to be bigger to handle a lens + sensor.

Canon would need a new mount to make their cameras match the size of the A7 series. They might be able to work around the EF-M mount, but, Im not sure that's intended for full-frame.

Reality is that Canon isnt releasing a full-frame mirrorless system that will compete with Sony anytime soon. And Sony is gonna drop an A9 soon that is gonna take the market even further from what Canon is doing.

One nice thing about the A7 series is the small size, but that's something that's completely irrelevant compared to the fact to have an EVF, which means having focus peaking when doing photos with manual lenses, silent shooting, shooting video through the viewfinder, reviewing material in bright light without monitor and much more!

So the mirrorless success and convenience is NOT about size, it is because working with it is way more fun than with a DSLR!

Of course less size would be cool, as you can carry more lenses. But a new Canon mount would mean buying new lenses (which would take years to have the Sony lineup) or using an adapter (which makes the whole body+lens combi as large as with a DSLR anyway).

So PLEASE Canon do the obvious and find a way to release a 5D4 with EVF and articulating screen as well, working without is a pain and not suitable for the years 2016-2020!!!
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asl said:
Hellish said:
4k! 4k! 4k!

+1

It all sounds good expect for the lack for 4K.

I'm going to have to be a naysayer and say that 4K would overcomplicate things. Just give me solid HD recording. Heck, 99% of the stuff I watch online is at or near the lowest quality I can get. If I made a video I probably wouldn't even upload Full HD just for the sake of bandwidth.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Canon EOS M5 known specifications:
24.2mp (80D sensor or some variant, we’re 90% sure on this).
Built-in electronic viewfinder
A new AF system (Could be the best new feature of the EOS M line)
A more classical camera design, more in line with Fuji or Olympus

This could be interesting, I started to wonder about with what to replace my M1 with ones it fails. Not that it shows any signs of that yeat. Got a nice thirdparty OVF, so I'm good for now, but no EVF would definately make the M5 a hard sell... What I actually is most interested in now is the DR.
 
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9VIII said:
I'm going to have to be a naysayer and say that 4K would overcomplicate things. Just give me solid HD recording. Heck, 99% of the stuff I watch online is at or near the lowest quality I can get. If I made a video I probably wouldn't even upload Full HD just for the sake of bandwidth.

But having 4K doesn't stop you using it in only HD....
Whereas having only HD does prevent me using it in 4K
 
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Somehow it's still unbelievable that Canon continues to release cameras that are limited to 2 (TWO) megapixel video and wants consumers to shoot with that in the year 2017. If they had no competition in the past, we probably would be stuck with 6 megapixel photo resolution.
 
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