The New EOS [CR3]

[cezargalang]

ISO 12 (L2) and ISO 50 (L1). So funny

 

[DarkKnightNine]

All you guys betting against a new 1Ds MkIV seem to miss that this is exactly what was shown in the Singapore Today ad, a 1Ds. I think we're going to see a 25 year celebration of the EOS mae with some kind of blow everyone away announcement.

Also Canon must know that what happened to Flip is soon going to happen to the entire p&s market. Anyone played with the camera on the new iPhone 4s yet? It'll blow your mind, and will send every camera maker running for the high ground.

I've have played with the camera on my new iPhone 4S and it sucks, but I think it's because I got a phone with a bad lens defect or a bad sensor. I get this blue banding in the highlights across all of my images. Taking it back tomorrow. As for the image quality, it's good considering it's camera on a phone but can't begin to touch the IQ of my Canon 1D Mark IV.

 

[wockawocka]

All you guys betting against a new 1Ds MkIV seem to miss that this is exactly what was shown in the Singapore Today ad, a 1Ds. I think we're going to see a 25 year celebration of the EOS mae with some kind of blow everyone away announcement.

Also Canon must know that what happened to Flip is soon going to happen to the entire p&s market. Anyone played with the camera on the new iPhone 4s yet? It'll blow your mind, and will send every camera maker running for the high ground.

I've have played with the camera on my new iPhone 4S and it sucks, but I think it's because I got a phone with a bad lens defect or a bad sensor. I get this blue banding in the highlights across all of my images. Taking it back tomorrow. As for the image quality, it's good considering it's camera on a phone but can't begin to touch the IQ of my Canon 1D Mark IV.

It's the low iso banding of the 4S that really brings it down.

 

[DarkKnightNine]

Well, I won't be buying a 18mpx full frame camera. Just not going to happen. I'm sure it'll be great for wedding photogs. It's going to be much less useful for studio, sports, and landscape shooters.

I've said before and I'll repeat. This makes very little sense to me.

So how is 12 FPS and 61 AF points "less useful" for sports?

Sports photographers (Pros) use their 1D MK IV cameras along with their 400mm f/2.8 lenses.

All of a sudden, they will need a 520mm f/2.8 lens to get the same field of view, or crop to a 10MP image rather than the 16mp image they now have once again to get the same field of view.

I'd say that would be less useful for them.

I disagree. Although I'm mainly a fashion/portrait photographer, I occasionally shoot sporting events (like K-1 in Japan), concerts and fashion shows. The benefits of having a FF sensor at a fast frame rate outweigh any loss in focal length do to cropping. FF means greater low light performance via higher ISO with less noise; Higher ISO with less noise means I can push my shutter speeds higher and get a far greater percentage of pictures sharp and in focus. Couple that with 10-12fps and I think any action shooter will tell you that's heaven. If the rumored specs are correct, this is the perfect camera for me and I would sell my two 1D Mark IVs and get two of these cameras. Anything higher than 18MP is just icing on the cake.

 

[tjshot]

Technically, that's true, but it's a tautology. In fact, no Canon lens can resolve more than about 21 MP, because that's the highest resolution of any Canon sensor, currently. You see the problem, I trust. But, consider this: if you test the same lens on the 15 MP 50D and the 18 MP 7D, the resolution increases. That's true even with the worst lens tested by DxOMark (the cheapo 75-300mm f/4-5.6). The relative pixel densities if those cameras were FF would be 38 MP and 46 MP, but even a cheap non-L lens is limited by the sensor, not the lens optics. So, we're a long way from being lens-limited in terms of resolution.

Thanks for your information guys.

This has been brought up gazillion times before in different places. But for unknown reasons, it has failed to gain widespread acceptance.

In the following post:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,1902.0.html

I've proposed a few simulation scenarios that may give the hint on effective performance difference of full frame cameras with 36 Mpxls and 50 Mpxls (same ESOU 7D pitch on full frame).
Results may be interesting as with a very good Prime (think Canon 85mm F 1.8 ) the 36 Mpxls would outperform actual 21 Mpxls one, after proper sharpening, by a + 10-15 lpm margin at every stop.
With a 50 Mpxls sensor difference would be + 20-25 lpm while dynamic range/noise would still be manageable (think of Canon EOD 7D)

 

[h-kon]

Well, I still think it|s a new 1D series body. Check out the similarities:

Nikon:
D3/D3s - Full frame, high speed(9fps), high ISO, 12mp, pro body
D3x - full frame, low speed, low ISO, 24mp, pro body

In similar, Canons new line might be:
1DV - full frame, high speed (12fps), high ISO, 18mp, pro body
1DVs (or whatever it will be called) - full frame, low speed, high iso, 36mp, pro body

What I'm trying to say here, is that Nikons D3x is their counterpart of Canons 1Ds. If Nikon found a market for a 1Ds-like camera, I guess Canon won't leave this market to them. I don't think we see an amalgamation of the two 1D-cameras, but only that the 1D V is a full frame one.

 

[mreco99]

Its Monday today, tuesday is apparently the announcement day. I am staggered there are no details leaked already.

How the hell do canon manage to keep 100's of employees and any outside contacts, from leaking some info. I know about NDAs and all that but, a leak is just that an anonomous leak of information, by someone noone can pin anything on.


Either that or nothings being announced tomorrow

 

[Antiheld]

Its Monday today, tuesday is apparently the announcement day. I am staggered there are no details leaked already.

How the hell do canon manage to keep 100's of employees and any outside contacts, from leaking some info. I know about NDAs and all that but, a leak is just that an anonomous leak of information, by someone noone can pin anything on.


Either that or nothings being announced tomorrow

If the people from Canon that know what's going on are few enough, there is never a point where an anonymous leak could take place. I guess they won't tell anything to their usual employees - only the highrollers will know it. And of course these are few - and that's why there are almost no leaks.

Which also makes that whole rumor-thing way funnier and more interesting, I think. )

 

[entertainer]

I read: ‎"Dear Editor,There has been much rumors and discussion among avid photographers, all eagerly anticipating news on the new EOS model. On behalf of Canon Marketing (M*******), we are excited to invite you and / or your journalist to witness the global launch of the new EOS model. For the first time in history, we will be announcing the arrival of our flagship model at the same time as the rest of the world including Tokyo! So make sure you join us on this momentous occasion."

It is for tomorrow. Hence, we could expect it in 12-18 hours.

 

[dstppy]

Its Monday today, tuesday is apparently the announcement day. I am staggered there are no details leaked already.

How the hell do canon manage to keep 100's of employees and any outside contacts, from leaking some info. I know about NDAs and all that but, a leak is just that an anonomous leak of information, by someone noone can pin anything on.


Either that or nothings being announced tomorrow

[points to first post] That's about as leaky as you can expect without someone making up stuff (see every 3rd rumor over the last few months) or Canon trying to save money on press conferences by 'playing telephone' over the internet.

At this point, there's no reason to 'bring anyone in on the secret' until the last minute, so it makes perfect sense that no news is coming out.

 

[mreco99]

I think its more than just high rollers that know anything. Someone has to build parts for prototypes, make drawings, get marketing ready weeks before the anouncement etc etc. Hats off to Canon, they run a tight ship.

 

[Doodah]

I think its more than just high rollers that know anything. Someone has to build parts for prototypes, make drawings, get marketing ready weeks before the anouncement etc etc. Hats off to Canon, they run a tight ship.

Darn right, you are!

Then again, nothing may happen tomorrow save a few printers or point & shoot. LOL.

 

[surfing_geek]

Its Monday today, tuesday is apparently the announcement day. I am staggered there are no details leaked already.

How the hell do canon manage to keep 100's of employees and any outside contacts, from leaking some info. I know about NDAs and all that but, a leak is just that an anonomous leak of information, by someone noone can pin anything on.


Either that or nothings being announced tomorrow

I got told everyone gets locked in the building and they pull the phone lines til they've done the announcement. They do provide bread and water though

 

[Bateman75]

What time is the announcement? I just wondering if i will wake up to the news or if i will have to wait for them.

I live in mainland europe.

I found out that in Singapore its now Monday 21:30 And in europe its 1530 so chances are that early tomorrow its time to see what canon has up there sleve

 

[Redreflex]

Its Monday today, tuesday is apparently the announcement day. I am staggered there are no details leaked already.

Agree. Somewhat odd isn't it, particularly as it's slated for a multi-continent same-day announcement?

 

[DarkKnightNine]

Well, I won't be buying a 18mpx full frame camera. Just not going to happen. I'm sure it'll be great for wedding photogs. It's going to be much less useful for studio, sports, and landscape shooters.

I've said before and I'll repeat. This makes very little sense to me.

So how is 12 FPS and 61 AF points "less useful" for sports?

Sports photographers (Pros) use their 1D MK IV cameras along with their 400mm f/2.8 lenses.

All of a sudden, they will need a 520mm f/2.8 lens to get the same field of view, or crop to a 10MP image rather than the 16mp image they now have once again to get the same field of view.

I'd say that would be less useful for them.

As a photographer who does shoot sports/events, I think we would rather have a camera that could perform well in low light situations i.e. FF rather than the extended range of 1.3 or 1.6 cropped sensor. Low light performance = faster shutter speed. Faster shutter speed = greater percentage of usable shots and at 10-12fps, it would be a godsend. Usable shots are what we get paid for, not how far away we can frame the action.

 

[AlicoatePhotography]

From past release watching. This seems like a bust for an SLR being announced. There are usually some photos of parts from manufacturing, released photos from a foreign website, or just more chatter in general. Seems unlikely. I am hoping to be proved wrong. These seem to come out Tuesday morning at midnight NY time. I will be watching DP review and Canon USA at that time. Why, I don't really know, it could wait till the morning I guess.

 

[Loswr]

From past release watching. This seems like a bust for an SLR being announced. There are usually some photos of parts from manufacturing...

If the rumor that availability won't be until March 2012 is correct, they likely wouldn't need to start the production line QC until after the announcement...

 

[Cannon Man]

To me an 18mp full frame 1d camera would be useless or not a wise step to replace the 1ds III and if it will not replace it how many years will we have to wait for a new studio camera?? To me this all seems fishy.. I quess tomorrow we'll find out if this was all bs os not.

 

[nikkito]

i might have entered this website around 30 times today waiting for an update that never comes